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MOT Failure - Parking brake problem

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I had my first MOT test of my Grande Punto today (2007, 1.2, Active), and I failed it with "Parking brake: efficiency below requirements [3.7.B.7]". As I don't know much about these problems and it's my first time doing that, do you know what may have caused that problem and roughly what amount of money it would take to repair it? They told me to go tomorrow so they can put it apart to check what the problem is and give me a quote, but I'm a bit preoccupied as it happened to me to change a camshaft pulley last April, and the garage lied to me about the cost, taking almost twice as much money than initially discussed (probably because they saw I'm a girl and I don't understand much, so they took advantage of that and the fact I had to send someone to collect my car because I was working that day... I'm not visiting that garage ever again). While I don't want to pay for MOT again, I believe I would prefer it in case they give me too high price for it, so that someone else repairs it for less.

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Re: MOT Failure - Parking brake problem

Mine (2006 1.2 active) has failed twice on the parking brake. First time just needed some adjustment, second time one of the handbrake cables had rusted through; if you follow the cable up from the back wheel you should be able to see this if it's like mine - the cable outer cover had worn through and the inside had corroded. New cable sorted that.


Don't know the price as I changed my own - sorry
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Re: MOT Failure - Parking brake problem

Thanks a lot for your opinion! I hope it's not something too big that needs lots of work, but unfortunately I'm not good at repairs, so someone has to do it for me.

After reading around the internet about the place I've done my MOT at, I feel like I may have been scammed, as according to their advice my tyres are complete rubbish (not one, ALL of them, and I had problems with only one of them going flat twice, checked it twice and no problems were found), although I don't drive much and they've never failed a MOT before according to the car's history (I got the car last year), so I'll go to some independent place to do some diagnosis for me before doing unnecessary repairs. Better to hear another opinion, as I was surprised how many people complain about companies making them fail a MOT on purpose so they can sell parts.

I'd rather pay 30 pounds for another MOT than 100s for doing work I don't need.
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Re: MOT Failure - Parking brake problem

Certainly worth getting a second opinion if you think they might be trying it on.

If you're worried about the independence of an MOT you could look for a place that only does testing (not repairs), something I first read about here.
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Re: MOT Failure - Parking brake problem

Thank you for your advice, PuntoR60SX! Unfortunately, I live around 30 miles (no motorway) away from the closest centre, so I guess I'll have to deal with the local ones instead, as I don't have much time to make a decision. Will see what they'll tell me tomorrow.
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Certainly worth getting a second opinion if you think they might be trying it on.

If you're worried about the independence of an MOT you could look for a place that only does testing (not repairs), something I first read about here.
Our NCT centers here do not do repairs and are specifically barred from even advising on anywhere/body to do work! Much better idea than a garage doing a test!
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Lucky us Belgians tne "controle technique" (your MOT I guess) is completely independant of ANY repair workshop/dealer/thiefer etc. :-D

@ CherryCrush: have a friend/neighbour tight a bit the parking brake adjustment. Then you can test them: straight graveled road (not sure this is the correct term, I mean a road covered with little stones so with no much sticking), better with NO circulation/side parked cars/trees etc. Launch the car at say 20mph, HOLD the wheel FIRMLY, press the clutch to bottom and pull HARD the park brake lever for a few meters then release and stop the car. Inspect the road where you pulled the park, you shoud see TWO prints in the gravels, if so your parking brake shouldn't be a problem @ MOT. You will maybe see only one print, meaning the park brakes are unbalanced or one cable is seized, time then to go to a local mechanic (usually cheaper that in dealer's garage). If you don't see ANY print, either youdidn't pull hard enough or your rear brake pads are dead (may come from the internal self adjuster seized => need cleaning/unrusting)

Hope this helps a bit, cheers, Bernie
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Re: MOT Failure - Parking brake problem

Quote Originally Posted by cherrycrush View Post
Hello,

I had my first MOT test of my Grande Punto today (2007, 1.2, Active), and I failed it with "Parking brake: efficiency below requirements [3.7.B.7]". As I don't know much about these problems and it's my first time doing that, do you know what may have caused that problem and roughly what amount of money it would take to repair it? They told me to go tomorrow so they can put it apart to check what the problem is and give me a quote, but I'm a bit preoccupied as it happened to me to change a camshaft pulley last April, and the garage lied to me about the cost, taking almost twice as much money than initially discussed (probably because they saw I'm a girl and I don't understand much, so they took advantage of that and the fact I had to send someone to collect my car because I was working that day... I'm not visiting that garage ever again). While I don't want to pay for MOT again, I believe I would prefer it in case they give me too high price for it, so that someone else repairs it for less.

Thanks a lot in advance!
It's more than likely going to be the cable has stretched over time and maybe needs replacing or adjusting. Your local Halfords can do a FREE brake check if you want a second opinion:

http://www.halfordsautocentres.com/b...ee-brake-check

That way you can get it checked and then if you want take it somewhere else to be fixed. If it justs needs adjusting just get Halfords to do it while your there.
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Re: MOT Failure - Parking brake problem

Thanks, will check them out.

As I guessed, the ones that I went to were scammers - first told me that I need to pay 565 pounds to replace everything and it can't be done today, when I said that's too much they quoted me their "best price" of 480 and it could have been done today... And now they want to charge me 25 pounds for "check", which I wasn't aware of!!! Will write an official complaint against them and will go for someone to check and repair it if necessary before going for another MOT. Shame on them to take such advantage of more vulnerable people, yesterday they tried to do the same with another woman.
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Re: MOT Failure - Parking brake problem

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Thanks, will check them out.

As I guessed, the ones that I went to were scammers - first told me that I need to pay 565 pounds to replace everything and it can't be done today, when I said that's too much they quoted me their "best price" of 480 and it could have been done today... And now they want to charge me 25 pounds for "check", which I wasn't aware of!!! Will write an official complaint against them and will go for someone to check and repair it if necessary before going for another MOT. Shame on them to take such advantage of more vulnerable people, yesterday they tried to do the same with another woman.
What area are you in ?

Maybe the forum members can recommend someone local who's trustworthy.
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What area are you in ?

Maybe the forum members can recommend someone local who's trustworthy.
I'm in Reading, if anyone knows a reliable centre around, I would greatly appreciate it! And thanks for your time
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Re: MOT Failure - Parking brake problem

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"best price" of 480 and it could have been done today... And now they want to charge me 25 pounds for "check".
That's outrageous, suppose if they're the only ones in the area they're charging ridiculous amounts due to no competition. Check if they have a website that states their endorsements, in sure they would love to hear about being quoted scam prices. I'm pretty sure if a full replacement was necessary you would have other MOT failures.
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I'm in Reading, if anyone knows a reliable centre around, I would greatly appreciate it! And thanks for your time
I know it's an hours drive but the one below is run by a member on here @burrowsdeano

http://www.smallcarservices.co.uk/index.html
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Even if I had to replace all of the rear brakes including the handbrake cables it would be about half what you've been quoted but the most likely thing it will be is that the handbrake has only ever been adjusted at the lever and needs the rear brakes adjusting properly. As for inspecting to see what the problem is that's free as it would take max 15 mins to investigate. If your prepared to drive down to me I'm sure I could get the whole lot inc mot at a very reasonable price. I do loads of work for people who have been ripped off elsewhere. Far too many scammers out there giving the motor trade a bad name.
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Re: MOT Failure - Parking brake problem

If you look on somewhere like euro car parts & price up the parts..
Brake shoes and even a pair of cables I'd guess be around 120
That's if it even needs cables..
Most garages use euros for parts..and they'd pay less than Joe public..
Add a max of 2 hours labour ..
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