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Re: car stuck in 1st gear; cannot move or tow

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You will have to get the fault code read to see what is going on. Multiecuscan is highly recommended for this. Alternatively you could try battery disconnected for an hour or two and then 3 engine start stop cycles. If it was an intermittent glitch this might clear the warning.


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Thanks Robert. Looking into Multiecuscan at the moment. According to their website I would need the "ELM 327 v1.3+/OBDLink interface without adapter (unmodified)" – I found on amazon an ELM 327 adaptor V1.5 – what's a OBDLink interface?
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Re: car stuck in 1st gear; cannot move or tow

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Thanks Robert. Looking into Multiecuscan at the moment. According to their website I would need the "ELM 327 v1.3+/OBDLink interface without adapter (unmodified)" – I found on amazon an ELM 327 adaptor V1.5 – what's a OBDLink interface?
a wireless version ( no cable)
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Re: car stuck in 1st gear; cannot move or tow

The ELM 327 (USB) will do the job. The OBD key is a defferent interface that does the same job.

You can download and try out MES before you pay the registration fee.

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Ordeed one – will update once received this weekend
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Re: car stuck in 1st gear; cannot move or tow

While I wait for the ELM to arrive – what's the correct level of the automatic transmission fluid? Should the container be fully topped up ?

I checked mine on three instances and found that the level varied depending on whether the pressure pump was initiated – started off slightly above the MIN line but fell each time the pressure pump was initiated to a level about 2 inches lower of minimum level.
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Re: car stuck in 1st gear; cannot move or tow

To check the level (valid for the M20 6 speed dualogic)

Vehicle on a flat surface and the engine cold.

Apply pressure to the hydraulic circuit of the automated gearbox by opening the door
on the driver’s side, so as to activate the electrohydraulic pump.

Open the bonnet and check that the level
corresponds to the MIN notch on the tank.
- If the level is below the MIN market, remove the cap and add the relevant fluid
(product table) until it reaches the MIN. notch
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Thank you. Is there a manual available for the dualogic system? The one with the car cas absolutely no information on it!


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To check the level (valid for the M20 6 speed dualogic)

Vehicle on a flat surface and the engine cold.

Apply pressure to the hydraulic circuit of the automated gearbox by opening the door
on the driver’s side, so as to activate the electrohydraulic pump.

Open the bonnet and check that the level
corresponds to the MIN notch on the tank.
- If the level is below the MIN market, remove the cap and add the relevant fluid
(product table) until it reaches the MIN. notch
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Re: car stuck in 1st gear; cannot move or tow

Now that I am above my 5-post limit, here's the picture of the fuse box and the fuse replaced in order to get the pump going again

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Re: car stuck in 1st gear; cannot move or tow

Hi, didn't know this thread was still live.

I posted 2 pdf's on dropbox:

A pdf about the dualogic I found on the web a while back: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/...ic%2007-09.pdf

I lifted the part of the GP manual that deals with the fuse boxes: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/...x%20Manual.pdf

and what could be the 2 fuses that are related to the dualogic system: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/...0manual%29.jpg

in my GP fuse no16 is 5A, no84 is 10A

tangoalphanov, in the manual it does not mention fuse no 83 (30A), which you succesfully changed.
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Re: car stuck in 1st gear; cannot move or tow

Its seems that Fuse F83 is fuse F37 in GP Elearn

Descriptions > 55 ELECTRICAL EQUIPMENT > 5505 INSTRUMENT/GAUGE ELECTRIC... > 5505 ELECTRICAL EQUIPMENT Engine compartment junction unit

The Gearbox seems to have the following Fuses
7,5A Gearbox ECU
10A Gearbox Solenoids
30A Electric Pump
15A Gear shifts

The user manual doesn't mention fuse F37 and F39 which have different number
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Re: car stuck in 1st gear; cannot move or tow

@tonico77
could you please provide a link to this,

preferably from this forum..
so it's there in months to come ,
unlike photbucket , etc

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Here is the link for Grande Punto Elearn. It has some very interesting reading. If you want I can also give you some more information on how the dualogic works. I just need to know which type you have, CFC300 or CFC328.

https://www.fiatforum.com/downloads....downloadid=473
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Here is the link for Grande Punto Elearn. It has some very interesting reading. If you want I can also give you some more information on how the dualogic works. I just need to know which type you have, CFC300 or CFC328.

https://www.fiatforum.com/downloads....downloadid=473
Do you happen to have an english copy of the pdf manual? the eLearn does not contain much about the selespeed.

I may have isolated the issue with the transmission in my GP. The automatic transmission fluid is always below minimum level; when I top it up to normal level, it leaks (through the pipe below) and again goes below the required level. The leak amount is always similar to the amount I top up, around 30-50mL. I'm trying to isolate the function of the pipe and potential replacement.

The car operates fine when in gear, but has a delay when switching from N to 1 (2-4 seconds).

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I have the Fiat-500-training manual. On page 156 the describe the 5 speed Transmission in detail. That leak look like it is coming from the low pressure return pipe.
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