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Re: Engine & Exhaust Noise (YouTube)

Quote Originally Posted by cmosfxx View Post
Sticky valve lifter or low oil pressure.

Thicker oil may help...

What's the mileage on the car?

113,800 miles. Quite a lot, I know.
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Re: Engine & Exhaust Noise (YouTube)

If you leave it stood for a days, is it worse?
How quick does the oil light go out?

If you re concerned over pressure get someone with a pressure gauge to check cold and hot.

It may be something as simple as a worn drive belt.

It may also be the hydraulic tappets worn.
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cant really afford to take it in to get a mechanic to have a look unless I really need to..
You shouldn't buy the car you can afford, you should buy the card you can afford to maintain.

If this has been going on for a long time you might even need a new camshaft since the lack of lubrication makes it rub on its seat and dig grooves into it.

Could be a sticking valve lift too, either way it needs a thorough investigation, we're only bouncing off ideas and opinions here.

If you like this car, if you would like to keep it and use it I strongly recommend you take it to a good shop ASAP.

DON'T get scared about prices, it's cheaper than replacing the entire engine when it dies completely and it's beyond repair.

A Grande Punto (can't speak from experience about other Italian cars) needs constant maintenance to keep it in proper working order, it's like going to the gym, you have to keep at it to make it work.
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Re: Engine & Exhaust Noise (YouTube)

Harsh words, but very true. My plan of action today is to get the car up on the ramps and check the manifold and down pipe for leaks. After that I'm going to leak some of the oil out of the sump, I've got this inkling that I may have over filled on oil when I did my oil change and that that could be exacerbating matters. It was only a touch overfilled which is why I didnt bother before, but I suppose I should rule it out. After that I'm gonna go buy some hydraulic valve lifter treatment stuff and see if that sorts anything out. If none of this helps I guess I'll bite the bullet and take to a mechanic. Will update with how things turn out. Thanks for all the help guys, appreciate it.
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No point in trying the hydraulic lifter treatment, These engines are shim and bucket, no hydraulic lifters in them
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No point in trying the hydraulic lifter treatment, These engines are shim and bucket, no hydraulic lifters in them
Ahhh okay thanks for the heads up. I've worked out that assuming I have the correct oil capacity value, (2.6l), that I have over filled by 0.2-0.3l . Is this enough to cause an issue?
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Not generally no, How far is it showing above the MAX on the dipstick?
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Not generally no, How far is it showing above the MAX on the dipstick?
Not sure, its hard to tell. The dipstick gets oil on it from the sides of the reservoir when feeding in/out but if I had to guess I would say:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B3A...ew?usp=sharing

(Where the red line is, was just a generic image I got from google.)
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Don't quote me on this (as i may be wrong), but i'm sure i read somewhere the difference between min and max is 0.5 litre.

I'd give an approximate at 0.25-0.3 over by your reckoning
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Don't quote me on this (as i may be wrong), but i'm sure i read somewhere the difference between min and max is 0.5 litre.

I'd give an approximate at 0.25-0.3 over by your reckoning
Sounds pretty spot on to me. I've decided to book it in anyway, get someone to take a look. Im just not very trusting with mechanics, big believer in doing things yourself where poss, but I've been recommended someone so I'll see what he has to say.

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So took it in to a mechanic for a look, the guy popped the bonnet and said he couldn't really hear much wrong with it, it had warmed up by this point so wasn't as bad as starting it from cold. He said it was hard to say without hearing it start from cold but he would say it was just tappets and not anything major to worry about.
He said if I was worried about it to book it in so they could hear it from cold. But essentially said he wouldnt say its major priority fix (Im driving back up to uni at the weekend)
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So took it in to a mechanic for a look, the guy popped the bonnet and said he couldn't really hear much wrong with it, it had warmed up by this point so wasn't as bad as starting it from cold. He said it was hard to say without hearing it start from cold but he would say it was just tappets and not anything major to worry about.
He said if I was worried about it to book it in so they could hear it from cold. But essentially said he wouldnt say its major priority fix (Im driving back up to uni at the weekend)
He mustn't know about these engines then, they don't have tappets

Really, a garage would need it from cold to diagnose it
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My Grande doesn't have air con either
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he would say it was just tappets and not anything major to worry about.
I really hope he was just saying that because it's a job that requires opening the engine up and he really didn't feel like it.
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