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Supercharging a 1.4

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I got bored the other dy and have convinced myself that its possible to superchage my GP,, anyone know anyone whos attempted it?? A friend of mine and me just turboed his saxo but i have always preffered supercharges to turbos and it means i dont have to sort out a new manifold. Im thinking Eaton 45 (Used in mini cooper S).. Any advice or thoughts would be appreciated

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I'm going to say it before everyone else does... It would be much much cheaper to sell your car and buy a t-jet.

As for whether its possible, anything is possible if you are willing to throw enough time and money at it.
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Deep pockets come to mind lol have you enquired what your insurance company would say also and how much your premiums would go up?
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Well first off,, ive already done allot to my car and i dont want to start fresh with a diffferent car (its my first car so im overly attached) and my insurance company didnt have as much of a fit as i thought they would £250 extra roughly (around the extra if i had a tjet)
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Saw a video YouTube with a 1.4 500 supercharged. So it's possible
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Re: Supercharging a 1.4

The differences between a T Jet and a plain Jane 1.4 16v are extensive. Rods, cranks and pistons are the first things that come to mind. The T Jet also has a gearbox made of stronger chocolate (although I'm not sure what chocolate the GP uses -- I was thinking 500 Abarth).

The problem with old style superchargers is that they're not only driven off the crank pulley (which is a well known weak point on the FIRE engines -- extensive and expensive thread by Dave the Trike somewhere here) but they also introduce big shock loads to it.

A centrifugal blower like the Rotrex is a better bet -- much lower shock loads, far more efficient. See here.
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Re: Supercharging a 1.4

This is a project I'll be following if you decide to go ahead. Would make a wicked sleeper.
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I agree with the above comment, this will be awesome if you go ahead with it
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Re: Supercharging a 1.4

@R1NGA has centrifugal charged his Panda 1.4 16v!


https://www.fiatforum.com/panda/2867...h-project.html


It's a good read
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@R1NGA has centrifugal charged his Panda 1.4 16v!


https://www.fiatforum.com/panda/2867...h-project.html


It's a good read
I have indeed, but it was on an 8v 1.2, but the principle remains the same. Centrifugal superchargers (ie: Rotrex) make progressive torque and excellent top end power, but are gentle enough on the bottom end to allow pretty much standard engines to survive. My 1.2 went from 60bhp to 110bhp on standard clutch even. Turbo's do nasty things to non-turbo gearboxes due to the bulging torque delivery, which whilst fun, it's not good for longevity of the box or engine bottom-end.

Expensive though - expect to spend £2-3k on a proper job. You'll laugh a lot though....
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lol can you imagine getting smoked at the lights by a 1.2 8v Panda?!

Almost worth the 3k!
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Re: Supercharging a 1.4

That's exactly why I'm not keen on VXRs, FOCUS RS etc. They look fast, people know they're fast, no surprise at all! 1.28v supercharged panda...now that's something...
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Re: Supercharging a 1.4

And a 4x4 at that - even stealthier....
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And a 4x4 at that - even stealthier....
Lol the car was literally made for grannies.

With regards to humiliating acceleration, I was in the fast lane of a dual carraigeway, on the inside of me round a roundabout was a Mazda MPV with a Christian fish badge on the back. It completely obliterated me in my little GP, and it was an old boy driving it.

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