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Old 29-11-2013   #1
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dualogic Transmission oil change type

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I have Grande Punto 1.4 8V and now i need to change the dualogic Transmission oil with the manual transmission 75W85 because the dualogic Punto have Manual gear box so i need to change the Manual gear box oil + dualogic Transmission oil

so I need a help from all of you to know the type and specific number of the dualogic Transmission oil because the Handbook manual not mention this


Waiting all of you

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Re: dualogic Transmission oil change type

The hydraulic fluid for the Selespeed system on the Dualgoic gearbox is 'CS Speed'. Obtainable from a local Fiat or Alfa dealer

The system will need connecting to the correct diagnostics equipment after the CS Speed fluid is changed to bleed the system. Ideally left to a dealer or independent specialist. To be completely honest it's probably best left, isn't recommended for change in the handbook.

The main gearbox fluid will be in your handbook.
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Re: dualogic Transmission oil change type

Tanks very much for your reply....

I am in Egypt and the local dealer here do not know the type and number for the hydraulic oil...and i try more than one time to search in the handbook ..but only the manual transmission is mentioned

Please if you know the number and type of this fluid ..Please help
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Re: dualogic Transmission oil change type

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Please if you know the number and type of this fluid ..Please help
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I'm not 100% sure but according to this listing http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Tutela-Tra...item4ac58dff91 the part number is "15081616"

Worth a try at your dealer?

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Thanks for your help ...its a true this is a correct one for my car i will buy it....
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Re: dualogic Transmission oil change type

I Can not find the tutela cs speed in my dealer here in Egypt ..Could any one help please for any equivalent Hydraulic fluid like ATF
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I Can not find the tutela cs speed in my dealer here in Egypt ..Could any one help please for any equivalent Hydraulic fluid like ATF
I wouldn't use any alternative. Why can your Main Dealer not get CS Speed fluid
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Samply coz we ae in Egypt can you help in any alternative AFT FLUID ?
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Samply coz we ae in Egypt
If the dealers are supplying the cars they should be able to source the parts direct from Fiat.

I personally wouldn't use anything other than CS Speed fluid unless you want trouble further down the line.

Why are you needing to change it anyway out of interest
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Re: dualogic Transmission oil change type

Coz it will cost me alot to buy it from uk to egypt ..thats why i need a help
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Coz it will cost me alot to buy it from uk to egypt ..thats why i need a help
It'll also cost you a lot for a new gearbox pump and actuators when the mess up because you've used the wrong fluid!

You not listening to what I'm asking. Why can the main dealer not source it And why are you needing to change the CS Speed fluid

Who's saying it has to come from the UK?
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It'll also cost you a lot for a new gearbox pump and actuators when the mess up because you've used the wrong fluid!

You not listening to what I'm asking. Why can the main dealer not source it And why are you needing to change the CS Speed fluid

Who's saying it has to come from the UK?

Yes i t will cost me a lot or a new gearbox pump and actuators when the mess up

coz the main dealer here is peace of **** he do not care about Fiat future in Egypt and he only care about the money .. and say that Fiat Italy recommend to use ATF 300 as good equivalent for the Dualogic transmission but you need to change it every 10000 KM ...

about your Q about why i need to change it ...coz i make a mistake and i make the dealer change it when i finish 50000 km...so i am now stuck i cycle ..and must change it every 10000 km ....

thats why i need to get Cs speed Tutela original one agian and never change it as it is recommended to do not change it ...(Handbook never say change for it)


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Re: dualogic Transmission oil change type

I got the Dualogic Garande punto Handbook and it say that i need to use

Specified fuels
Recommended products
TUTELA CAR CS SPEED -
Special oil with “ATF
DEXRON III” additive

and one can help that i can use ATF
DEXRON III
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Re: dualogic Transmission oil change type

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Re: dualogic Transmission oil change type

Ok i will buy the tutela cs speed fluid .. is that ok with my grande punto
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