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Old 15-03-2012   #1
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Hi, I'm a newbie. Well I say I'm a newbie but I have been a member for a while, but i have been busy, so i've been ninjaing around the forum for a whole. Was just wondering for future reference which remap company people would suggest. Red dot, Celtic, angel, any others? Little confused
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Re: 1.9 mjet remap

Your ninja skills are poor then, this has been covered plenty of times , red dot all the way
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Sanspeed tuning done mine. Excellent mapping skills.

But im looking at running a different map now from a guy from Revo.

Most people on here though will recommend red dot as they are cheap.

Avoid celtic, they will probably quote you 290bhp from a map.
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Re: 1.9 mjet remap

i recoment tune4performance in watford #

poor ninja skills tho
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Re: 1.9 mjet remap

What did you get from the sanspeed one, and what difference are you expecting from revo?
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Re: 1.9 mjet remap

I've seen that red dot is good. Although on other sites I've seen bad reviews so I was a tad confused. Might have to make a day trip to north London then.
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What did you get from the sanspeed one, and what difference are you expecting from revo?
Sanspeed got me 177bhp and 330ftlbs. It was mapped through OBD II.

The real way to map these cars is by removing the chip from the ecu and then resoldering it on once mapped. This way you can tweak it way it more such as the way the power comes in, rev limit, fueling for when on full throttle and motorway cruising etc. The revo guy can do this so im hoping to have my ecu took out soon.
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Oh i see. Fair enough then. Cheers
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Sanspeed got me 177bhp and 330ftlbs. It was mapped through OBD II.

The real way to map these cars is by removing the chip from the ecu and then resoldering it on once mapped. This way you can tweak it way it more such as the way the power comes in, rev limit, fueling for when on full throttle and motorway cruising etc. The revo guy can do this so im hoping to have my ecu took out soon.
how much is that setting you back?
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how much is that setting you back?
For now free as its development.
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Re: 1.9 mjet remap

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Your ninja skills are poor then, this has been covered plenty of times , red dot all the way
Are your figures in your sig pure remap? I assume you had to do some other things first?
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Are your figures in your sig pure remap? I assume you had to do some other things first?
Just a map. You can squeeze 200bhp out of them but its highly dangerous for the engine/running gear.
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Re: 1.9 mjet remap

Celtic did mine 185bhp I think it was. Sold the car now but had no problems for the year i owned it after.
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Re: 1.9 mjet remap

Quote Originally Posted by Nick Tune it Up Lawrence View Post
Okay.


Whether you read then flash the modified data through OBD2 port, or remove ECU and do it on the bench, or de-solder the eprom (probably a PLCC type chip) or BDM - the remap wont be any different.


Removing the chip and putting it into a programmer to read the data is what you do when your remapping tool(s) cannot communicate with a modern car. Chip removal is reserved for the older (pre 1996) cars when you had to remove the chip because there was no OBD2 protocol.

It doesn't matter if one person had their chip de-soldered, but ask him what remapping equipment he has. Chances are his tool isn't new enough, and therefore doesn't cover the 1.9MJet

Alientech Kess V2 (latest update version 1.84) should cover it
CMD must cover it
AMT Cartech MPPS (now version 16) does it 100% through OBD
Dimsport Genius II should
Alientech Powergate II should have read/write for it as well
Byteshooter (i'm not sure)
Optican Dual II (and Hybrid) probably do it, they cover a lot of EDC16 tech
Galletto I'm sure does it as well :-)


Those are a few tools - industry tools for tuning cars (not copy crap off ebay). As long as the 'tuner' has 2-3 tools to hand he should be able to cover most modern cars through the diagnostic port.

I wrote a Fiat 1.9 MJET file last week for a member on here last Sunday and that read the file, and flashed the modified version without problems.
mine wasnt done through obd2 or ecu removed or chip unsoldered, a paperclip was used to connect direct to ecu
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Re: 1.9 mjet remap

I think that 165-170hp with oem turbocharger is realistic but 185-195 hp..... Perhaps with very very optimistical dyno....

I'm currently running about 220-230 hp with big turbo upgrade(30psi of boost 2500-5000rpm), forge fmic, 63mm downpipe, protoxide exhaust (57mm vs 50 OEM).

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