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Re: Frozen Alternator leading to snapped belt

all sorted on my 07 Sporting, Picked up the flexi sleeve from fiat in Preston as Blackpool fiat weren't help-full at all!

here's a pic of the old and new and a video showing the water draining away from the alternator.

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Im confused, which cars are affected by this?

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The Service News (update from Fiat) that was sent to all Fiat dealers covers every model in the Grande Punto or Punto Evo range.

However, from experience of the cars that have had trouble on here, it's petrol cars made upto February 2010 that seem to have the problem.

The video posted by Andy shows what happens if your car has the wrong drain tube fitted.

The video by Alex shows what happens if you have the correct one fitted.

If your car is the Orange Sporting in your display pic then if it's petrol it probably will be affected. However if it's a Multijet diesel then it's less likely it'll have a problem, as the layout under the bonnet is slightly different & i think the alternator is placed out of harms way on the diesels.
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Thanks Liam I do have the multijet so fingers crossed ill be ok!
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I'm going to get this done tomorrow if FIAT in bolton has the flexi sleve just had a look in the dark and mine looks like the wrong part.

Seeing that it was dark i couldnt see too much how did you find fitting the pipe? Is it literally pull the other one out and slide the other in, i also seemed to be able to feel some sort of plastic pipe inside the rubber.. is this a problem?
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both of those videos are of cars without aircon yes? as mine looks to have a huge aircon unit above the alternator would mine still be affected
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The video by Alex shows what happens if you have the correct one fitted.
Although it's fitted the wrong way round. It should drain to the N/S (behind the alternator) on petrol models, and to the O/S for Diesel models.

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However if it's a Multijet diesel then it's less likely it'll have a problem, as the layout under the bonnet is slightly different & i think the alternator is placed out of harms way on the diesels.
Service bulletin covers both petrol and Diesel. Alternators are mounted in similar positions (behind the block).

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both of those videos are of cars without aircon yes? as mine looks to have a huge aircon unit above the alternator would mine still be affected
The car in the video above does have A/C.

In my experience, the majority of alternator seizures were on models with air-con, which incidently have an expensive alternator with unique design, of which weren't available from anywhere but Fiat.
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Be my guest if you think you can fit it like that! That's the only way I could get it to fit, plus it doesn't drain on the alternator anymore so problem sorted!

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Although it's fitted the wrong way round. It should drain to the N/S (behind the alternator) on petrol models, and to the O/S for Diesel models.



Service bulletin covers both petrol and Diesel. Alternators are mounted in similar positions (behind the block).



The car in the video above does have A/C.

In my experience, the majority of alternator seizures were on models with air-con, which incidently have an expensive alternator with unique design, of which weren't available from anywhere but Fiat.
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Re: Frozen Alternator leading to snapped belt

Phoned local Fiat garage about this, they had no idea and when I referred them to service bulletin 7002 she enquired how I got that information, I said Fiat Technical, and she said they don't speak to members of the public.

An awkward silence ensued...she said she's looking in to it and will call me back, but I am extremely doubtul I will recieve a phonecall from them.

Oh the joys.
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How easy is it to replace the broken fan belt on a 2007 model 1.4 and is there any pics showing the different stages of how to do this.
I tried to download the workshop manual in the downloads section but the file has been removed from rapidshare
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Be my guest if you think you can fit it like that! That's the only way I could get it to fit, plus it doesn't drain on the alternator anymore so problem sorted!
Easily, the hole is oval and the pipe fits either way! Almost every one I did was a petrol model. I even used to tuck it behind one of the brake pipes so the water had no chance of getting anywhere near anything.

There has to be a reason for the decision where to direct it for specific models, even if it looks ok.
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Re: Frozen Alternator leading to snapped belt

Didn't get a call back, but I knew I wouldn't.

Phoned back again, got a fella this time he was really helpful. Quoted the part number and he got it ordered for me (6), I've got to pick it up on Friday.

Take it it's easy to fit?
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I tried both ways and found this the best what do people think? http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y285/frazle/e7429cec.jpg
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I had the same problem on my 09 Punto 1.4 8v in the recent cold spell. Started the engines and within 30 secs the car was full of acrid smelling smoke. I checked under the bonnet and could see the alternator (fan) belt had disintegrated. Because of the urgency of repairing it and distance to my Fiat dealer I got a local garage to replace the belt. It seems I have been lucky and the alternator is ok. Just read this thread and got a sleeve from my dealer. It looks an easy job to replace, any tips / suggestions?
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I had the same problem on my 09 Punto 1.4 8v in the recent cold spell. Started the engines and within 30 secs the car was full of acrid smelling smoke. I checked under the bonnet and could see the alternator (fan) belt had disintegrated. Because of the urgency of repairing it and distance to my Fiat dealer I got a local garage to replace the belt. It seems I have been lucky and the alternator is ok. Just read this thread and got a sleeve from my dealer. It looks an easy job to replace, any tips / suggestions?
Quick update, I replaced the old smaller sleeve with a new one (similar if not the same as the one on the other side). Tested and all seems OK now. To a non-mechanic it just looked wrong before with all that water pouring over the alternator, which cannot be right. I cannot understand how Fiat let this go through prototype / testing. In my opinion there needs to be a recall to correct the fault.
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