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No, I had not changed the battery at the time. What you are describing is how to reset the sunroof mechanism, which is what my mechanic first performed, and since that failed to cure the issue, he then suspected the moving parts of the roof.
 
I have similar problems. Thought the roof was only supposed to open to half way to begin with. Only discovered later that it should open all the way.
Resigned myself to living with it as i can open it half way and push it the rest. And really don't want to be spending that sort of money on a repair!
Found this part lying under one of the runners, anyone recognise it?
The curved part of the item looks like it has snapped of something else...
 

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martwho said:
I have similar problems. Thought the roof was only supposed to open to half way to begin with. Only discovered later that it should open all the way.
Resigned myself to living with it as i can open it half way and push it the rest. And really don't want to be spending that sort of money on a repair!
Found this part lying under one of the runners, anyone recognise it?
The curved part of the item looks like it has snapped of something else...
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I fear it was pushing it that broke the ribbon on mine :(

Dreading next Friday, booked it in to the dealer and expecting to be very out of pocket... but I don't really think there's a lot else I can do.
 
martwho said:
I wonder if it's possible to get a skydome from a breaker.:-/
Might try fiat customer care see what they say, seems like a common fault.
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I have access to the eLearn CD which does have a lengthy and complex guide to dismantling the SkyDome, it's very tempting to visit a breakers and do the work myself, but then they'll be left with a sunroof in tatters and I can't see they'd let you do it cheaply. Oh, I don't know! :cry:
 
My skydome wouldn't come back forward after being fully retracted unless given a helping hand. Bishops at Guildford said it had a broken runner and the parts alone to repair it would be just under £2,000 as it was a factory fitted item. I don't know if that's true but I'm not spending that sort of money and it still tilts fine. Note to self - never by a car with a sunroof ever again.

Still waiting on Fiat to get my new exhaust for the local garage to fit and now the driver's inner door handle broken. Should have got shot at 4 years old :(
 
Knightrider said:
My skydome wouldn't come back forward after being fully retracted unless given a helping hand. Bishops at Guildford said it had a broken runner and the parts alone to repair it would be just under £2,000 as it was a factory fitted item. I don't know if that's true but I'm not spending that sort of money and it still tilts fine. Note to self - never by a car with a sunroof ever again.

Still waiting on Fiat to get my new exhaust for the local garage to fit and now the driver's inner door handle broken. Should have got shot at 4 years old :(
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The lack of parts and the lack of knowledge of fitting these roofs is ridiculous, it seems they were just churned out without a care in the world. I've stopped trying to fix mine, I get around it by mostly only opening to the first stage (which has no problems opening or closing), then just pushing to the maximum open level and pulling back to where it clicks for the first stage afterwards. Sure, a pain, but definitely not worth spending probably over half the value of the car on.
 
Whilst mine is fine at the moment, if it were to break id shut it and disconnect the switch so it never got opened accidentally. They do make the car look good though.
 
So, thought I'd share my Easter project story. Started off with a very lucky bargain I got from a nearby breakers, which looks as follows:

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I couldn't believe my luck. So, with help from the Fiat elearn manual, I dissected the new roof, which gave me good practise for when butchering my own car.

Once the vessels were out, I had to wait for a good clear day to take my car apart. Over the course of two full days, I had the whole interior apart, and saw exactly what had broken.

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The vessels have a secondary rubber strip that extends, giving the roof the extra opening. You can just about see this strip in the middle of the photo. This strap seems hardly more durable than a watch strap, and when I took the glass roof off my own car, these rubber straps just fell out! It scared me that I'd been driving round for a year with my whole roof pretty much balancing on these broken straps! One had obviously got stuck; I presume some grit had made its way in there. Then, the other not able to take the force.

Since I could clearly see the difference between my new and old vessels, I popped the new ones in, reconnected the motor/cables (plus muchos grease), and after a recalibrate my roof was as good as new. Never have I felt such relief! Then, after another hour/two putting the interior back together, a cold beer. I regret not taking photos as I went along, but once I started this job I just wanted to get on with it. Had I taken photos, I would have made a proper guide of this.

So, keep an eye out for scrappies. For a job Fiat do for £247 EACH vessel, plus labour (I should imagine pushing £700), I managed to do for less than £100 and a few scraped knuckles. Satisfaction!
 
Good evening to everyone.

I seem to have the exact same problem with my Skydome (on my Grande Punto).
Both straps that move the roof are broken. I dismantled the sunroof only to see them in numerous pieces!

Is it possible to replace only the broken straps (if found anywhere) keeping the same vessels?
Purchasing the vessels from Fiat seems to be impossible. They charge 800€ (see attached picture from Eper)!
 

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Hmmm, just rejoined FF (I used to be on the Panda area) as I am seriously thinking of buying a GP and I was hoping / thinking of one with a sunroof (I used to have a Stilo with the full length roof which was brilliant).

Reading the above makes me wonder if I save myself a lot of heartache and not bother with a sunroof at all...:(
 
Hi,

I have the same problems with the Skydome.

Tried the reset as explained on here but to no success.

I dismantled the glass and found one of the straps completely snapped plus the plastic/rubber that covered the strap to pieces of plastic.
It needs replacement.

The original part numbers are 77364 256 Right side 77364 257 Left side.

The 2 issues i have in terms of changing the part are the following :-

The broken strap alone can be replaced or the whole rail has to be replaced ?

If so, kindly suggest a site that i can buy the parts from perhaps i find them cheaper than the local agent.

Thanks
 
Cadabena said:
So, thought I'd share my Easter project story. Started off with a very lucky bargain I got from a nearby breakers, which looks as follows:

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I couldn't believe my luck. So, with help from the Fiat elearn manual, I dissected the new roof, which gave me good practise for when butchering my own car.

Once the vessels were out, I had to wait for a good clear day to take my car apart. Over the course of two full days, I had the whole interior apart, and saw exactly what had broken.

View attachment 135535

The vessels have a secondary rubber strip that extends, giving the roof the extra opening. You can just about see this strip in the middle of the photo. This strap seems hardly more durable than a watch strap, and when I took the glass roof off my own car, these rubber straps just fell out! It scared me that I'd been driving round for a year with my whole roof pretty much balancing on these broken straps! One had obviously got stuck; I presume some grit had made its way in there. Then, the other not able to take the force.

Since I could clearly see the difference between my new and old vessels, I popped the new ones in, reconnected the motor/cables (plus muchos grease), and after a recalibrate my roof was as good as new. Never have I felt such relief! Then, after another hour/two putting the interior back together, a cold beer. I regret not taking photos as I went along, but once I started this job I just wanted to get on with it. Had I taken photos, I would have made a proper guide of this.

So, keep an eye out for scrappies. For a job Fiat do for £247 EACH vessel, plus labour (I should imagine pushing £700), I managed to do for less than £100 and a few scraped knuckles. Satisfaction!
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Please can you help?
Where did you find the Fiat Elearn Manual?
And how did you manage to get the whole sunroof of the other car, then I know how to disassemble my own too.
 
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