anyone have experience with these things?

cryogenic induction via air intake & intercoolers?

Overbewst said:

anyone have experience with these things?

cryogenic induction via air intake & intercoolers?

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is this where you freeze the car for the future when you can buy hover parts?

And these are what and do what?

i think i know what u mean. someone once told me you can put a mist machine in your air intake, and ts so cold yyour cars performance will be amazing.
i laughed though as didnt believe him

Percyhahn said:

i think i know what u mean. someone once told me you can put a mist machine in your air intake, and ts so cold yyour cars performance will be amazing.
i laughed though as didnt believe him

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wouldnt that be harmfull to the turbines?

probably, i dont know, he only mentioned it, but dont know if anyones ever actually done it

Oh your talking about misting water onto your intercooler to reduce the intake temps? In the UK on cars running small power? Pointless.

punto_matt said:

Oh your talking about misting water onto your intercooler to reduce the intake temps? In the UK on cars running small power? Pointless.

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yeah that could be it actually, the theory is a good one though, but dont know much about it, and why it doesnt work then if u say it doesnt.

http://www.prostreetonline.com/x/nx-n-tercooler-kit.asp one of these.

We dont get warm enough temperatures here for it to make a difference.

James1989 said:

is this where you freeze the car for the future when you can buy hover parts?

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very good

punto_matt said:

http://www.prostreetonline.com/x/nx-n-tercooler-kit.asp one of these.

We dont get warm enough temperatures here for it to make a difference.

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If that's the case why do we bother buying intercoolers

lol theres a question

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Because standard intercoolers are very inefficient so even in our warm temperatures through prolongued use they can stuggle to keep air cool. Look at all the people that use these kits. They are big power jap cars usually in america where they have alot higher temps than us. While they may get big power increases off them over there you wont get anywhere near the same amount in the UK IMO. I mean by all means go and buy one and prove me wrong but from running my intercooler for nearly a year now it is all you need.

punto_matt said:

*sigh*

Because standard intercoolers are very inefficient so even in our warm temperatures through prolongued use they can stuggle to keep air cool. Look at all the people that use these kits. They are big power jap cars usually in america where they have alot higher temps than us. While they may get big power increases off them over there you wont get anywhere near the same amount in the UK IMO. I mean by all means go and buy one and prove me wrong but from running my intercooler for nearly a year now it is all you need.

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Well it would be much lighter then a larger IC for a start, and the article I read was a standard Honda Integra got 60% gains from the cryo induction and intercooler sprayer.

As for the science behind it.. colder air is denser as we all know so if an identically tuned GPS exactly the same as yours but had a stock cryogenically basically frozen IC..
Who would be running more power?

You or your sub zero counterpart?

I might also add that he would have improved throttle response over you with his stock IC.

Percyhahn said:

i think i know what u mean. someone once told me you can put a mist machine in your air intake, and ts so cold yyour cars performance will be amazing.
i laughed though as didnt believe him

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Just to clarify, the cryogenic induction isn't spraying gas into your intake, because the gas is usually CO2, so it would starve your engine of Oxygen.

It can be done with N2O but I'm referring to just the super-cooling of the induction air by freezing the induction pipes on the outside in turn cooling the air.

would it be possible to have the system on a switch system so it could be used only in summer maybe?

A turbo charged integra? That was standard? Link?

Who knows who would be running more power as no one has done it! Say what you think it will do all you want but untill you do it im not paying any attention as im running with a proven method.

Why would he have improved throttle response? Have you driven a standard cryogenically frozen GPS and a GPS with an aftermarket intercooler to come to a conclusion or are you just guessing as thats what the internet says will happen on a different car?

Any system would be on a switch anyway which you would press to make it work. It would be ****ing expensive to use it all the time. Its just an expensive and hard way round a problem that has an easy solution.

basically its similar cause and affect to nitrox oxide injected into the system but more expensive

James1989 said:

would it be possible to have the system on a switch system so it could be used only in summer maybe?

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It would be on either a switch operated solenoid or a hand operated gas canister mounted under the driver/passenger seat so it wouldn't be on all the time.

Basically it is a pointless mod on a GP unless you are already running an after market intercooler and are still struggling from high intake temps.