Technical 1.9 Multi jet Cambelt?

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Technical 1.9 Multi jet Cambelt?

JackE

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Just wondering when are you supposed to change the cambelt on the 1.9 m-jet. Mine is at 55k and know on vw usully at 60k.

Also might be a silly question what colour are eibachi springs?

Also is 35 M.P.G about right for normal driving around the dors, a lot fo stop start driving.cheers jack
 
springs are red if there sportline, pro are black iirc.

as for the cambelt it does say in the manual (so RTFM) off the top of my head i think its 72k miles.
 
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I'd get the cam belt done now: better safe than sorry. I did mine at 55 thou.

35mpg isn't great, but if it really is all stop start in town, in winter, that's probably OK. But for heaven's sake get out now and again and give it a decent run at speed.
 
just brought a grande punto 1.9 which has done 62k and it tells u in the book should change ur cambelt every 5 years or 90k and yes im only getting 35mph its crap dunno why specialy if i drive it around town maybe it could do with a long run down the motorway tho i was only doing inst 40-44mpg at 80mph
 
Cheers for info

Oh it does get ran out for a bit of speed ;-)
Think it must be the sportlines then and mike i get exactly the same mpg as you. Although might invest in a remap and hope it gets better.
 
Changed my cambelt at 52k and 3 years... I dont trust manufacturers recomendations since Alfa jerked around with their cambelt replacement periods.

Just do it, cost me around £300 inc water pump, aux belt and the full cam-belt kit with a warranty against failure for the whole of the next replacement period, covers parts & workmanship.

As fo MPG, 44.1 on my last tank full, no long journeys there.

But perleeeez... do take the thing out for a run or swap it for a city car!
 
Fiat certainly have changed the replacement schedules. I waited five years, which was too long for safety, and I wouldn't risk it going to 90 thou.
 
Mine's giving me about 39mpg at the moment - it did seem to take a dip recently and the power seems down slightly (not able to accidentally get wheel spin in 3rd anymore :rolleyes:). Guess that would the EGR (anyone want to offer to give it a spring clean for me? :p) - but it does get a good run every now and then - like 140 miles to Somerset, the running around down there, and the 140 mile run back again. On a side note - I was doing outside lane motorway speed and still managed the whole trip on a single tank.

As I like stating the obvious - if you do a lot of start/stop and stick your toe down when moving away, your economy will drop - a lot.
 
just brought a grande punto 1.9 which has done 62k and it tells u in the book should change ur cambelt every 5 years or 90k and yes im only getting 35mph its crap dunno why specialy if i drive it around town maybe it could do with a long run down the motorway tho i was only doing inst 40-44mpg at 80mph

this is correct. I don't know why people worry, fiat are a multi million pound car company that knows what they are doing, I ran mine to 91k before changing the cambelt, oil change every 18k,exactly what the book says...Just had my cambelt service done... 92k now, and I've had no major problems, no worries :D

my "average" mpg is 47, on an a-road run, its easy to get mine to run between 52-57mpg.... on the motorway (not exceeding an indicated 80, so probably about 72) It gives approx 50-51 mpg, but town driving 35 is normal....fuel econony is all about NOT using the brakes, and don't be afraid to use full throttle, and block gear change, 4th to 6th for example, and plan well ahead to avoid using the brakes... mine was mapped by angel at 4,000 miles. (y)
 
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this is correct. I don't know why people worry, fiat are a multi million pound car company that knows what they are doing, I ran mine to 91k before changing the cambelt, oil change every 18k,exactly what the book says...Just had my cambelt service done... 92k now, and I've had no major problems, no worries :D

my "average" mpg is 47, on an a-road run, its easy to get mine to run between 52-57mpg.... on the motorway (not exceeding an indicated 80, so probably about 72) It gives approx 50-51 mpg, but town driving 35 is normal....fuel econony is all about NOT using the brakes, and don't be afraid to use full throttle, an engine is at its most efficiant at full throttle. mine was mapped by angel at 4,000 miles. (y)

Happy for you Sharkey but check the Alfa Forums... not such a happy tale from there... Never hurts to get the Cam-belt done a bit early. I'm not as convinced as you are that Fiat are right, about Cam-belt replacement time OR Service intervals. Who picks up any bills outside Warranty when something breaks because Fiat want to have low running costs & nice loooong Service intervals...?

Certainly not Fiat! :p
 
this is correct. I don't know why people worry, fiat are a multi million pound car company that knows what they are doing, I ran mine to 91k before changing the cambelt, oil change every 18k,exactly what the book says...Just had my cambelt service done... 92k now, and I've had no major problems, no worries :D

my "average" mpg is 47, on an a-road run, its easy to get mine to run between 52-57mpg.... on the motorway (not exceeding an indicated 80, so probably about 72) It gives approx 50-51 mpg, but town driving 35 is normal....fuel econony is all about NOT using the brakes, and don't be afraid to use full throttle, and block gear change, 4th to 6th for example, and plan well ahead to avoid using the brakes... mine was mapped by angel at 4,000 miles. (y)

Fiat are to (mis)quote you, a "multi million ITALIAN pound car company that has not a clue about quality control, customer service nor after sales service".

You were extremely lucky that the £15 cambelt did not snap after 91,000 miles. In fact, you were extremely stupid!! I would have changed the little £15.00 plastic belt at 45-50,000 miles. If it snapped it would cost you £2000-£3000 for a new engine.

Other people take note. But if you are like my son you will just ignore the advice until the worst happens & your bargain car becomes a financial nightmare.......:confused:
 
Happy for you Sharkey but check the Alfa Forums... not such a happy tale from there... Never hurts to get the Cam-belt done a bit early. I'm not as convinced as you are that Fiat are right, about Cam-belt replacement time OR Service intervals. Who picks up any bills outside Warranty when something breaks because Fiat want to have low running costs & nice loooong Service intervals...?

Certainly not Fiat! :p

I certainly understand your point of view. I have heard of may alfa's snapping cambelts, and I queried it with my fiat tech guy at the garage. He says that although people say alfa use the "same" engines, many things are different. fir example he says fiat engines have different cambelts to alfa engines (I don't mean 1 cm longer ect :confused: I mean a diffent manufacturer and quite possibly different tolerances.... I mean the "same" engine is in the vauxhall 1.9cdti, and they have lods of problems with gearboxes, flywheels ect, but they are all vauxhall parts, not fiat parts...

however maybe I have just been lucky with mine! :D and you'd all better change em befre 60k ;)
 
Fiat are to (mis)quote you, a "multi million ITALIAN pound car company that has not a clue about quality control, customer service nor after sales service".

You were extremely lucky that the £15 cambelt did not snap after 91,000 miles. In fact, you were extremely stupid!! I would have changed the little £15.00 plastic belt at 45-50,000 miles. If it snapped it would cost you £2000-£3000 for a new engine.

Other people take note. But if you are like my son you will just ignore the advice until the worst happens & your bargain car becomes a financial nightmare.......:confused:

to call me stupid for following a rmanufacture reccomended service interval is ...er.. stupid! :rolleyes: I am far from stupid, I am quite intelligent and well educated (and old) thankyou :mad:

(*sharky reminds himself why he rarely posts on here, due to idiots being abusive, and being unable to have intelligent discussions...)
 
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to call me stupid for following a rmanufacture reccomended service interval is ...er.. stupid! :rolleyes: I am far from stupid, I am quite intelligent and well educated (and old) thankyou :mad:

(*sharky reminds himself why he rarely posts on here, due to idiots being abusive, and being unable to have intelligent discussions...)

Lol... Sharkrider is now officially stupid! :eek:

Nah.. we know better Sharkey, that wasnt a very nice Post you responded to from Zorba TBH, not very well thought out... maybe its a language thing!

I'm sure an apology will be on its way as I type! :D
 
I certainly understand your point of view. I have heard of may alfa's snapping cambelts, and I queried it with my fiat tech guy at the garage. He says that although people say alfa use the "same" engines, many things are different. fir example he says fiat engines have different cambelts to alfa engines (I don't mean 1 cm longer ect :confused: I mean a diffent manufacturer and quite possibly different tolerances.... I mean the "same" engine is in the vauxhall 1.9cdti, and they have lods of problems with gearboxes, flywheels ect, but they are all vauxhall parts, not fiat parts...

however maybe I have just been lucky with mine! :D and you'd all better change em befre 60k ;)

Maybe cos u is a "low power" MJet dude? ;)
 
Maybe cos u is a "low power" MJet dude? ;)

could be.. I asked for a gentle map, explaining I would be running the car over 100k in less than 3 years, and wanted reliability, the guy from angel said it was possible to give a fair bit more power than mine has, but then it can cause "issues.." ;)
 
could be.. I asked for a gentle map, explaining I would be running the car over 100k in less than 3 years, and wanted reliability, the guy from angel said it was possible to give a fair bit more power than mine has, but then it can cause "issues.." ;)

Just joshin ya mate... I have to say I am "empathetic" with my car... I never give it b@lls out acceleration, and make sure I keep my left foot well away from the clutch pedal when giving it beans... (y)
 
No, I certainly don't apologise for stating that anybody who risks not changing their cam belt until until 90,000 odd miles is stupid. It was not a personal attack - merely a statement of fact.

Irrespective of the 50,000 mile (or 72,000 mile depending on the year you purchased your car?) recommendation/stipulation by Fiat in the handbook of the GPS 130, you would be a fool not to change a £15.00 cambelt at about 50,000 miles. You can easily do it yourself for the cost of the belt or pay a local garage £100+. Either way, it's a lot cheaper than a £3,000 + new engine....:rolleyes:
 
Irrespective of the 50,000 mile (or 72,000 mile depending on the year you purchased your car?)

My service book suggests 90,000 mile intervals for the 1.9. You might think its stupid, but if its that important, why havnt Fiat updated this information? Im sure its cheaper for them to print a few letters to owners than to suffer the bad press that would be caused.
 
When I checked with the dealer two years ago - when I had mine done - I'm sure I was told that the schedule now is 60 thousand miles. The receptionist told me 90, but the tech who was doing something behind her came over and corrected her.

I'm pretty sure this is not a false memory. Cambelts can go on and on if you are lucky, but why risk it. Fiat's changing the service interval suggests that 90 thou is a mileage too far for some belts.
 
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