Technical Washer jets modification (lots of pics)

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Technical Washer jets modification (lots of pics)

Metrik

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I just recently bought a 2008 Grande Punto and enjoy it very much. But the washer jets on it is a disaster. They are really badly designed and to make it even worse, all three of them, 2 x front, 1 x back are fixed.

When driving, the front jets spray water onto the wipers and the water rarely makes it above the lower half of the wind screen. The huge drivers-side wiper blade, needs at least two dedicated jets, but only has one. Result is that 50% of the blade never gets properly "wet". When examining the bonnet panel holding the two front jets, you notice a third dummy jet in the middle. This could have been the perfect number two jet for the drivers-side wiper blade, but Fiat decided to make it a dummy. Why?

I couldn't stand it, so i decided to do some tests and mods to the front washer jets. I haven't tried the result on the car yet, but here are some pics for you to see. I modified the jets to try make them better. The result (in the lab) is very promising.

Here's the original front washer jet, pulled from the bonnet panel:

jet-original01.jpg


jet-original-front02.jpg


jet-original-front01.jpg


And a rear view shot:

jet-original-back01.jpg



I have two problems with these jets. They aim too low and the drivers-side jet spray is too narrow (horisontal wise) for the huge wiper blade. Both being fixed, i had to modify the nozzles.

TO WIDEN THE SPRAY HORISONTALLY on the drivers-side jet:

Here's a top view shot of the original front jet in action. Notice the narrow angle at which the water exits the nozzle. Imagining a clock, the spray covers from approx. 2:30 - 4:00 o'clock:

jet-top-view-original.jpg


I decided to cut/melt the plastic on one of the sides of the jet. Being from Denmark and seated in the left side of the car, i need more water to the right on the wind screen, so i melted the right side of the jet just slightly with a small flat piece of metal, heated up by a candle. This is the area i "flattened" out / melted (the yellow area):

jet-side-cut-front01.jpg


The result. Look how the water exiting, now covers from approx. 1:30 - 4:00 o'clock. I actually think this will work!:

jet-top-view-side-cut.jpg


Comparing them side by side, top most is the modified one:

jets-both-top-view01.jpg


TO ANGLE UP THE SPRAY on both jets:

Now on to the vertical problem. Both jet nozzles needs to be opened up upwards, but i've only done one so far, to be able to compare it with an non-modified one. This time i flattened out / melted this area with the hot metal piece:

jet-top-cut-front01.jpg


Result. Both jets are shown here. The closest to the camera is the original, the furthest away the modified one. I tried to align them in the shot, which is hard, but the result is pretty clear. I think this will work too!:

jets-both-side-view01.jpg


jets-both-side-view02.jpg


My jet lab setup ;)

jet-lab.jpg


I hope this is useable info for some. I will report back when i mount the jets on my car and test them on the road.

Notes:
I am quite sure that the new, widened spray will clear the bonnet panel.

I think the jet design on the new Evo is the same as the GP, unfortunately.

The bonnet panel consists of two parts, separated in the middle. They are held in place by two 10mm bolts, accessible from the underside of the bonnet.

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Which is what..... :p

A very simple tweak that doesn't involve modifying the jets themselves (seriously- would you be willing to fanny about removing the jets and melting bigger holes in them everytime they clog-up and need replacing :cry:).

Aside from that, if it's under warranty it's free and you get a cup of tea/coffee while you wait. It's a win/win situation. PMSL
 
A very simple tweak

Is this a secret?

When i told my local Fiat garage about the problem, they promptly ordered "a replacement kit", no questions asked. The kit arrived and consisted of two new jets including rubber tubes. Looked like the existing jets and performed exactly like the existing jets - no improvement. Lifting the bonnet panel (bodge) didn't work either.

(seriously- would you be willing to fanny about removing the jets and melting bigger holes in them everytime they clog-up and need replacing :cry:).

Using a lighter and a needle or flat plier, you could do the mod now in less than 2 minutes without removing anything. But i am all ears to a better solution.
 
Ok, first trip today with the modified jets. Windy conditions. Are they better? Yes they are, but not overwhelmingly better.

At stand still they tend to overshoot the wind screen. I expected that. Using small rapid pumps helps here.

At around 70mph the jets hits approx. 4" or 10cm higher on the wind screen compared to before. But wind / turbulence is still a major disturbing factor. The water beams are easily affected by wind, because the spray jets and the pump system is too weak.

The widened spray nozzles (left/right) does help overall - i get more water on the large drivers-side wiper blade, which is much needed.

Overall impressions? The mod helped but the system is still incredibly poor. We need a stronger beam of water and an adjustable one too. That will require a major modification.

Mads, thanks but no pics :) They wouldn't bring any value into what i already said.
 
i must have a malfunctioning set of standard washers as ive never had a problem with coverage etc :p. only the size of the resivour lol run out far to quickly (n)
 
Hi all,

Sorry to reply to this old topic, but the problem is still the same.

I know the problem is on Grande, Evo - and now have a 2012 Punto : still bad as it was in the first GP in 2005... This mean since 7 years Punto's users have issues with windscreen cleaning...

I searched a lot : I was hoping that someone has made a new jet nozzle that works better... but I not found a direct replacement part.

The solution is to modify the existing. If I understand what was posted, they were two solution :

1. Inclining the nozzles to spray higher on the windscreen
2. Modify the nozzle output to change the jet shape

But unfortunatly, here there is no informations for the first solution and no more pictures for the second....

In the past, I already tried the first solution, in static operation results was good, but when the car was running it was not a great improvement as expected...

So, anyone has a solution ? A link to a existing part or informations to modify effectively these jet nozzle ?

Any help /info would be appreciated :)
 
Thank for your quick reply :)

If I understand well, the goal is to make a deflector for the jet ?
Just tried in 5 min, result was just a little improvement.

The thing I dont understand, that the jet is too low, it hit the wiper arm and is low on the windscreen. But, in my case, the roof has quite a lot of washing liquid !
 
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