Technical car isnt starting right

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Technical car isnt starting right

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hi guys
wifes car is not starting as it should ignition lights come on 1st turn, 2nd turn dead
take 5 or more trys before it starts the car
had it to dealer 70.00 may i add for them to say its nothing they can trace
they have done a diagnotic test and its passed so did the battery and alternator.
to me and the wife it appears to when the car is left for hours the problem occurs or its um a cold start?

this is a 2 year old grande punto y reg with 11,200 miles on it
any ideas guys because stoneacre at worksop certainly hasnt:bang:
but they dooooooo like your money.
futher more if its failing to start would it register as a fault in the 1st place ?
doesnt the car have to be running to diagnose faults ?
any help would be appreciative thank
 
Wait you paid to put it on an examiner when its under warrenty? Get it booked in and leave it there overnight and see if they get the problem when they start it up in the morning.
 
i think its because its on its 3rd year warrenty and they reimburst you if the part is covered by fiat hell knows mate.
yeah we was thinking of giving it them and stateing bring it back when its fixed
all they said was it could be 100 things
and its hard to trace if its firing up when they test it
 
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Ah yeah you do on 3rd year warrenty. Still £70 is still alot to go on the examiner. Is it easy for you to get to Sheffield as i would highly reccomend using GK Fiat they have been very good when i have needed to send my car in.
 
il ask the wife get back tommorow
from looking at these forums it sounds to me like a cold temp sensor or something like that
once started and run 2 or 3 mins the car fires up fine
leave it several hours and it takes 5 or more turns to fire up
 
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im not sure what part of the forum i read it i thought im sure it was a temp sensor though
i refer to
https://www.fiatforum.com/bravo-brava/91908-intermitent-starting-problem.html
simular to our prob i think
"it restarts fine once warmed up, but if its allowed to cool for more than 10 mins it wont start. that sounds like it isnt trying to do a cold start when it should. replace the intake air temp sensor, built into the throttle case."
 
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air temp (MAP) sensor has caused starting issues in the past, however unless the fault can be pinpointed 100% and occurs during workshop testing there is little that can in reality be done. Its pointless changing parts just for the sake of it or because someone else had a similar problem on a forum.

If possible I would leave car at garage (or of not video it with mobile phone) to not only prove the fault is there but it will also help the technician locate the area of concern.

p.s. dont be too harsh on techs...many of them help out on here;)
 
wife at work this morning after car been stood 11 hours tried the car for 20 mins wouldnt start again. and she had the warning light come up 3 times with no accompanying message or error display, the warning light seems to be random and came on 3 times this morning and went off.
anyway security man said to her put it in reverese she turned ignitition he was about to rock car just touched the bonnet and it startet, anyway she got home 15 mins later i was awake,
and i heard her start it 3 times with no problem help.
going to ring them up today
 
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could be the spark plugs. keep us posted when you sort it out. let us know what was wrong with it.:)



yes i most certainly will GDRIVER very annoying owning a unreliable car that your still paying for thats on its 3rd year warrenty and no fault can be found

ill ask them to check
map sensor /air temp
ignition switch
starter moter
spark plugs
any other non starting problem they need to look for ? that wont show up on a examiner
also would faults register if the car isnt ticking over ? would it log them ?


to the admin would you remove part of my 1st post
this line
because stoneacre at worksop certainly hasnt:bang:
and this line
but they dooooooo like your money.
thanks .
i was pretty peed of at time of writing, not there fault if they cant trace it.
these new cars and all the electronics seem to produce more faults than they solve.
bring back the old ones where ya dad could go to the scrappy and throw anything in to replace it.

if anyone can suggest anything b4 1 oclock today they should check id be appreciative.
bearing in mind once run for an hour it starts up fine leave it several hours same prob.
ill keep you posted.
 
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yes i most certainly will GDRIVER very annoying owning a unreliable car that your still paying for thats on its 3rd year warrenty and no fault can be found

ill ask them to check
map sensor /air temp
ignition switch
starter moter
spark plugs
any other non starting problem they need to look for ? that wont show up on a examiner
also would faults register if the car isnt ticking over ? would it log them ?


to the admin would you remove part of my 1st post
this line
because stoneacre at worksop certainly hasnt:bang:
and this line
but they dooooooo like your money.
thanks .
i was pretty peed of at time of writing, not there fault if they cant trace it.
these new cars and all the electronics seem to produce more faults than they solve.
bring back the old ones where ya dad could go to the scrappy and throw anything in to replace it.

if anyone can suggest anything b4 1 oclock today they should check id be appreciative.
bearing in mind once run for an hour it starts up fine leave it several hours same prob.
ill keep you posted.
hope all goes well mate and may this be the last problem you deal with the car.(y)
 
just came to mind. if it is a warm weather do you also have a rush hour to start it?
 
this has just started in the last week
she just gets in the car as she has done in the last 2 years turns ignition all the way always started 1st time as it always has, shes not changed habits or anything.
as said before now takes several attempts to start 20 mins, this morning wife said prolly some exaduration (women)
got home 15 mins later 3 starts ok
nothing found on examiner battery ok and alternator dealer state.
 
just got off the phone there giving us aloan car £10 insurance a day and leaving car over night.
he says it more than likely is the ignition switch which is covered by third year warrenty
and because we had it on examiner other day
there giving us a hours free diagnotic test
i assume if it goes further than this we get reinbursted when the probs found
keep you posted
 
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yes had the head fiat bloke out at the dealership and he says its a starter moter issue and not sending right charge something like that
and the light is power steering light

now the big question is are
power steering failures and starter moters covered in the 3rd year warrenty ?
 
hi guys
wifes car is not starting as it should ignition lights come on 1st turn, 2nd turn dead take 5 or more trys before it starts the car ...

GP 1.2/8v 56(2006Dec) 25K ml & having similar experience since the cold snap. Always fires 1st time but won't hold any revs - have to start-over 4/5 times with some throttle tickle (outside of starting guidelines) before holding revs ... it's like there is no auto-choke(?) Temp dial zooms to max then back to around 1/8th from cold. No problem later in the day.
 
yes had the head fiat bloke out at the dealership and he says its a starter moter issue and not sending right charge something like that
and the light is power steering light

now the big question is are
power steering failures and starter moters covered in the 3rd year warrenty ?

Power steering yes, Starter motor could be argued that its not but then can be argued that it is aswell. I would not be planning on paying for it if mine went in my 3rd year.
 
what options do we have ? the car is not fit for perpose?
hmmm have to wait n see they will be leaving it overnight and i assume get back to us tommorow
 
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