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Re: Grande Punto - Starting Problems

could well be the battery (changed loads for this problem) as a starter relay was fittedand if voltage was slightly down it would cut out the starter often giving nothing or a grinding noise.

simply charge the battery (or go for long long drive) and try it again is easiest way to check or there is another way but thats my secret

ignition switch can also cause same symptons
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Re: Grande Punto - Starting Problems

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there is another way but thats my secret

Does it involve a Big hammer?


Sure fire way i used to start my FLT when it did this Till i went on holiday and someone decided they had seen my use the hammer and decided to beat the living carp out of the alternator and knackered it (his excuse was it looked like a motor )
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Hi all, any more ideas about this problem before l try a new battery.
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Re: Grande Punto - Starting Problems

replace the earth lead from the gearbox to the battery and charge your battery, if the fault still occurs get an earth lead made up and attach it to the back starter bolt in my experience this works unless your starter and flywheel have had it.
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Re: Grande Punto - Starting Problems

bolt to starter? its earthed through the mounting bolts, I dont see the point in this.

On these cars it's well known to normally be the battery due to;
1) its low capacity
2) ageing
3) cold

I'd chuck a 380A in there and hope there's no starter/flywheel teeth damage.
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bolt to starter? its earthed through the mounting bolts, I dont see the point in this.

On these cars it's well known to normally be the battery due to;
1) its low capacity
2) ageing
3) cold

I'd chuck a 380A in there and hope there's no starter/flywheel teeth damage.

i have a'56 plate GP and ive just now started my car and its just done a long grind. it almost sounds like rough metal on rough metal spinning around counterclockwise to eachother. if u get what i mean.

its done this forever. FIAT never found a fault

my battery is a VARTA 12V 40AH 300A (en2)

is this one of the weak ones?

im getting really bored of this horrible noise now and to be honest its embarrasing me when it happens in public and sh!ts everyone up and makes them stare at me.

im not willing to pay for a battery for it still to happen and then have to buy all manner of parts. FIAT have REALLY messed up with this fault and i dont think they give a ....
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Re: Grande Punto - Starting Problems

are you saying its done this for 4 years!
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are you saying its done this for 4 years!
ive had it for 3 and its always done it.

both lookers and stonacre dealerships deinied any problems.

what do u think of that battery spec?
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Re: Grande Punto - Starting Problems

varta are a good make, maybe a 360 would be more suited however has the starter motor ever been changed?
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bolt to starter? its earthed through the mounting bolts, I dont see the point in this.

On these cars it's well known to normally be the battery due to;
1) its low capacity
2) ageing
3) cold

I'd chuck a 380A in there and hope there's no starter/flywheel teeth damage.
you mean replace the battery for one for a vehicle with A/C. in my experience this works for a bit but its not a long term cure, where as the earth lead is a permanent fix.
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varta are a good make, maybe a 360 would be more suited however has the starter motor ever been changed?
T14086, No its never been changed. the car is totally stock. nothing has been changed or modded.

are you able to help in anyway?
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Question Re: Grande Punto - Starting Problems

I have a '56 plate 1.4 and it's been doing this for the past 10 months. I'd like to get to the bottom of it also.

Strangely it has been fine in all of the snowy conditions we have had.

It does not happen all of the time but when it does, the noise sounds "sore" and it must be doing little good.

Has anyone had the battery changed to a bigger capacity and the problem has been cured?

Sorry I'm not offering anything in terms of cures.
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Re: Grande Punto - Starting Problems

personally, i cant afford to go out and buy a new battery just as an experiement and then it turns otu to be the starter motor.

i think its cheaper to buy a refurbed start motor and replace it before buying a new battery......
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Re: Grande Punto - Starting Problems

any thoughts T14086?

is it easy to replace a starter motor? what do you advise repalcing first (i cant afford to go out and by a battery if its not goign to fix it).

mine too is ok starting in the cold. there is no pattern to it or any reason i can see. very very very odd and SO ANNOYING.

a varta 390 battery is approx 60. a starter from breakers is 40
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any thoughts T14086?

is it easy to replace a starter motor? what do you advise repalcing first (i cant afford to go out and by a battery if its not goign to fix it).

mine too is ok starting in the cold. there is no pattern to it or any reason i can see. very very very odd and SO ANNOYING.

a varta 390 battery is approx 60. a starter from breakers is 40
What engine / model is it?
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