Right, always wanted to play with this when I had the Stilo, but never got round to it. Has anyone had any experience of using EOBD scanner tools on the GP? Im watching a USB to OBD 2 cable on eBay, and interested to know if anyone has had any great success with diagnostics and the GP? Thanks!

will only show up EOBD faults,not any good for in depth stuff but handy for the £15-20 odd

T14086 said:

will only show up EOBD faults,not any good for in depth stuff but handy for the £15-20 odd

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Cheers T, so is Examiner the only way to get advanced data from the car

as said your only reading stored EOBD codes, not actual fault data etc

Noticed Argos were selling this for £40: http://www.argos.co.uk/static/Produ...r+equipment|10198863/Trail/searchtext>RAC.htm

could be of interest but to be honest if a warning light came on I'd either take the car to the dealer or call the RAC out if it was undrivable.

get them cheaper on ebay, they more cause they got RAC stamped on it for some reason

T14086 said:

get them cheaper on ebay, they more cause they got RAC stamped on it for some reason

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like their sat navs then

30111987 said:

to be honest if a warning light came on I'd either take the car to the dealer or call the RAC out if it was undrivable.

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Agree entirely, but sometimes its useful to see the fault codes yourself before the dealer or RAC presses the delete button And could save some serious money with diagnostic costs in the long run, although it doesnt look like its possible to get the advanced functions without the Examiner

adamcot said:

Agree entirely, but sometimes its useful to see the fault codes yourself before the dealer or RAC presses the delete button And could save some serious money with diagnostic costs in the long run, although it doesnt look like its possible to get the advanced functions without the Examiner

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good point, nothing worse than AA/RAC deleting errors giving dealer nothing to go on oh & its the AA/RAC that break the clips on the covers (check when the 'shiftly' put it back on!)

adamcot said:

Right, always wanted to play with this when I had the Stilo, but never got round to it. Has anyone had any experience of using EOBD scanner tools on the GP? Im watching a USB to OBD 2 cable on eBay, and interested to know if anyone has had any great success with diagnostics and the GP? Thanks!

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i have , i work in a garage and been into every gp i have had adam , but we use 15k bosch kts650, butt i do have a MAC tools et80 scanner which plugs into it and shows actual live data. cost me 70 quid plus vat, i have the MAC et50 which is the one before it and that dont go into it

where exactly is the connection port in the GP?
I've got an active (no blue an me). I looked in the glove box but I can't see any port - just the fuses.

30111987 said:

where exactly is the connection port in the GP?
I've got an active (no blue an me). I looked in the glove box but I can't see any port - just the fuses.

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ill get pictures on here showing where it is mate
bit hard to explain

adamcot said:

Right, always wanted to play with this when I had the Stilo, but never got round to it. Has anyone had any experience of using EOBD scanner tools on the GP? Im watching a USB to OBD 2 cable on eBay, and interested to know if anyone has had any great success with diagnostics and the GP? Thanks!

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Adam,

Ive got one of these cables spare that I was going to stick on ebay, dont know if you are interested, try before you buy? Its an ELM327 v1.0 USB interface, the sort you see for sale on ebay with the silver case. You can read fault codes, live sensor data etc with it.

Works with stuff like PCMscan so you can do 0-60 timing etc. You can do more with it than the above but you need to know what messages to send and how to read the responses - and its only fiat that do unfortunately(and the examiner hardware).

Dan

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where exactly is the connection port in the GP?
I've got an active (no blue an me). I looked in the glove box but I can't see any port - just the fuses.

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there is a little hole, just pull it (rather hard )






I'm Using the MAC SCAN TOOLS ET 80,

cheers!

Might see about getting on of these myself now. Particularly once the warranties gone on my car I'd rather have an idea of what's wrong before being fleeced by a garage.

true make sure its updated for 2008>, i get mine updated free every month from my tools supplier

Thanks for the info! Im going to try a USB interface and see how they get along, not sure if anyones tried it yet, but worth a shot! Il report back.....

GP1416valver said:

i have , i work in a garage and been into every gp i have had adam , but we use 15k bosch kts650, butt i do have a MAC tools et80 scanner which plugs into it and shows actual live data. cost me 70 quid plus vat, i have the MAC et50 which is the one before it and that dont go into it

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Good points but lets not forget the KTS650 (well now 670) costs over £6k + subscriptions, ok for garage but not for normal punter

The et80 is ok but like all scanners it is very limited and like any diagnostic equipment should never be 100% relied upon. Be honest have you or anyone you know said "well not sure what it is but computer says airflow meter so start with one of them" ... thats lazy diagnostics but we know we can refer back to that when airflow meter dont fix the fault thus covering our arses!

T14086 said:

Good points but lets not forget the KTS650 (well now 670) costs over £6k + subscriptions, ok for garage but not for normal punter

The et80 is ok but like all scanners it is very limited and like any diagnostic equipment should never be 100% relied upon. Be honest have you or anyone you know said "well not sure what it is but computer says airflow meter so start with one of them" ... thats lazy diagnostics but we know we can refer back to that when airflow meter dont fix the fault thus covering our arses!

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very tru T14086, we have had that problem yeh, but the KTS 650 has the software to check for example the air flow metre, because when you've entered the data for the car your working on, you can refer to the infor that bosch have put on there, so you can check tolerences and voltages. does a wide range of things the difference between the kts 650 and kts 670 is only memory and a bit bigger hard drive so if you have a kts650 it aint worth changing and that was coming from a bosch man when i went on my courses

And our KTS cost 15 with the stand, case, printer, amps clamp and pin out kit

Right, a quick update on this:

I met with Dan last night and got myself an OBD to ELM interface with a copy of PCMScan. Had a quick go with it tonight, and it supports a fair amount of data from the ECU. I get data from the engine RPM sensor, fuel flow pressure and rates, MAF, intake temperature, EGR valve monitoring and throttle pedal postion to name a few

Looks like the GP is compatible with OBD software