General My New Abarth

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General My New Abarth

Nice. :cool:

We're looking at one on Tuesday - white is the only choice.

I have a few questions though, if you'd be kind enough to answer?

# Does it come with an alarm? I've heard it doesn't

# Is the alcantara interior standard? Think I prefer this to the leather

# Are the stripes & mirror backs vinyl or paint?

# Does yours have the Assette (sp) kit or is it standard?

# Any idea how much servicing costs? Was told it needs to be done every 6k

# Any issues with build quality?

Cheers

Thanks JohnC. Apologies for not replying sooner, I've been running it in (sort of).

Mine's standard as well.

The dealer doesn't have final service pricing yet. The handbook quotes 18k miles or 12 months.

The EsseEsse does require 6month/ 6k miles apparently.

Build quality - the brakes squeal like gooduns at the moment but I met the service guy from Platts at the Gaydon event and he told me that the squealing will stop after 1k miles. 300 to go then, I've put 700 on it this week.

Squeals aside, those brakes are something else, though I was glad someone wasn't too close behind when I had to stand on them yesterday - a caravan pulled out as I was overtaking.
 
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Are the mirrors painted? I'm not sure. I understand that a couple of salesmen at Autoworld have swapped mirror colours on the stock Abarths - vinyl coverings? The EsseEsse kit comes with mirror covers as far as I know. The stripes are definitely vinyl.

But I could be wrong, wouldn't be the first time.

It also seems that the optional wheels (not the Assetto pack ones) come with Bridgestone Potenzas instead of Pirelli P Zero Neros. Don't know why. Those Pirellis are very noisy. The P6000s on my barchetta were too. Ditched them for Contis.
 
I had a good look at a black Abarth today and it's definitely the worst colour. I think that it's the only colour that needs the bodykit colour coded with the paintwork, as the contrast between the two different black finishes doesn't quite work.

My dealers had a black one fitted with the optional wheels, that didn't work at all.

The standard wheels are dead easy to clean, particularly after the 16-spoke turbines I had on the barchetta.
 
Potenzas are shocking on the GP. Mine will be coming off when i need some new tyres. Worth saying that fiat are very conservative with there performance figures aswell ;)
 
Potenzas are shocking on the GP. Mine will be coming off when i need some new tyres. Worth saying that fiat are very conservative with there performance figures aswell ;)

I'm still getting used to the car and forgot that I'd switched in the boost when I planted it coming out of a tight bend with another car close in front. Interesting!

That switch certainly makes a difference low down, someone reckoned it made the engine more like a turbo diesel in response. Not a bad description though at least it doesn't sound like a tractor.
 
I'm still getting used to the car and forgot that I'd switched in the boost when I planted it coming out of a tight bend with another car close in front. Interesting!

That switch certainly makes a difference low down, someone reckoned it made the engine more like a turbo diesel in response. Not a bad description though at least it doesn't sound like a tractor.

It does move the power alot lower down just like my remap has on mine. I now get my peak torque at about 2500-3000rpm.
 
Jesus, thats no where what i thought they were, explains why i ate one the other day then :rolleyes:

By today's standards 153bhp isn't a hot hatch and the GP is hardly lightweight.

Plus, the driver makes a hell of a difference. Most of the time I can't be bothered to rag it and we've all 'eaten' much faster cars at some time or other. Didn't mean the other guy was trying though, did it?

I took the car down to Norwich at the weekend and if you've travelled there from the midlands via Sleaford and Kings Lynn, you'll know what the traffic is like - tractors, caravans, 45 mph processions.

Once the car has gone past 500 miles I opened it up a bit. Boost button pressed, the pick up in mid-range was good for a 1.4 turbo and saw me past long lines of traffic where the single carriageway road was wide enough.

However, a couple of caravans pulling out at the wrong times made me glad that the Brembos are so powerful and made me a little more circumspect.

But then sitting in that traffic got boring and off we go again.:devil:
 
Remember - power isn't everything. The Astra VXR has about 220BHP, but can't use it all, and torque steers like crazy. Personally - handling is everything, and the reviews I've read haven't gone mad about the Abarth's handling, but then again they haven't dissed it.
 
Hi nice Abarth (jealous) ;)

Is there much difference between the GPA and the GP T-jet? i know the styling is slightly different but to be fair the T-jet is a lot cheaper and less powerful but is only 0.7 seconds slower than the abarth in terms of 0-60 times. Therefore, is it worth going for the Abarth purely for the looks/historic name, or is it worth buying a T-jet and getting a few Abarth looking bits for it?

Also, how much would i expect to pay for an Abarth like yours and what sort of MPG's do Abarth owners achieve when cruising/thrashing.
cheers
 
Abarth is completely different to a Tjet. Its not just a bit powerful alot of suspension components have been changed over and it handles so much better than a Tjet.

£13500 is base price with no discounts.
 
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As Matt said, there has been a lot of changes made to the Abarth. Here is a quote of my post in another thread in the GP Section:

As DevilAndGod said, it's not just a few tacky changes. They have repaired, uprated or replaced any poblems or weak spots in the interior department leaving it with what appears to be one of the sexiest interiors to grace an Italian car for some time :D



For anyone who thinks that it's just a T-Jet with some unpainted plastics, they have actually made some real changes to the car, these include:

10mm lower and 20% stiffer springs, 6mm wider track, 2mm thicker anti-roll bar and re-engineered dampers tightening up the chassis. Then the engine has been treated to flowed combustion chambers, inlet and exhaust manifolds, reprofiled camshafts and re-engineered valve timing.

That's just on the basic Abarth as well, the Assetto and Esseesse hone these changes to get even more out of the car's abilities.

Now maybe it's just me, but I think all of the extra work put into the car alone warrents it's premium over the T-Jet if you were to consider the cost of having a third party carry out these extensive changes to your T-Jet (thereby invalidating the warrenty)

Not to mention that the Abarth name is one of tradition and genuinely means something to motorsport, or at least it used to back in the days of the Strada Abarth, etc and hopefully the AGP and A500 will do something positive for the Abarth name and reputation.

I for one would love to give an Abarth a good long testdrive (but refuse to buy one at present because I dont agree with paying full OTR prices for Fiats, they should always have room for negotiation :p )

Just my thoughts :eek:

Also......

I also forgot to mention earlier in the thread but the Abarth also has strengthened crankshaft and conrods. I'm not sure how much stronger they are or if it was necessary or just a safety precaution.

This was also followed with a revised coolant system (assuming that heatsoak was proving to be a problem after a certain tuning point on the 1.4)

IIRC it was either the crankshaft or conrods that let go on Kritip's 1.4 16v StarJet Sei. Might be worth a read in the Cinq/Sei section (and Kritips conversion thread in particual which is here: https://www.fiatforum.com/cinquecen...-what-ive-gone-done-now-d-stage-2-begins.html ) to gain an idea of potential weaknesses.

Whole thread can be found here:

https://www.fiatforum.com/grande-punto/162232-gp-abarth-deals.html

I think they have made more changes than listed above but these are the main/benificial changes.

Hope that helps mate.
 
£13500 but how much extra are the tuning kits? esse esse or whatever it is? sorry, i'm a Panda owner, don't know much about GP's but i am seduced and hypnotized by the Abarth.....very tempting, i keep talking myself into getting one, and then my sensible head takes over!
 
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