General Remaped Multijet Blown Up

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Adjusts to what though, it has to be your driving style right? So you can make it learn lol.
 
The Story of the car

Owned form new

After 18K miles remapped by Angel Tunning

Less than 6K miles later turbo blows up taking the engine block and exhaust system with it.

Car gets taken by AA to Dealers who advise that a new engine is required. During the investigation discover the remap :cry:

This has been the most stressful month of my life, for the sake of a few more BHP I now face the choice of a punto with no engine or a £6K bill to repair.

I still have 3 years left on my finance.

All I can say is DO NOT GET A REMAP, if you want a faster car then buy a faster car.

I am not saying that the remap caused the turbo failure, however IMO it did, but for the sake of 40bhp it is not worth being £6K out of pocket when it goes wrong.

I will answer any questions you have, however I am deliberatly being vaugue as to my true identiy for a reason I am not prepared to state.

enought said...(n)

but really sorry to hear about your car :( are you sure that your car wasn't one of the one's fitted with the faulty turbo's?
 
Sorry to hear about your engine.

Why cant you reveal yourself? Surely if you say it was (in your opinion) Angel Tunings fault. Then Its unfair to name them and not yourself.
For all we know you could be just trying to discredit them for some reason.
If it is their fault you should be chasing payment from them. :confused:
 
seems you are not upto date on recent info. there is a whole batch of dodgy garret turbos fitted to a whole list of cars inc the GP. these turbos will fail prematurely whether your car is mapped or not. other car manufactures have recalled all their cars that have a turbo from this batch, but it seems fiat are just fixing them as they break

enought said...(n)

but really sorry to hear about your car :( are you sure that your car wasn't one of the one's fitted with the faulty turbo's?

Sorry to hear about your engine.

Why cant you reveal yourself? Surely if you say it was (in your opinion) Angel Tunings fault. Then Its unfair to name them and not yourself.
For all we know you could be just trying to discredit them for some reason.
If it is their fault you should be chasing payment from them. :confused:

as much as i dont like angel tuning i dont see how they can be blamed in this case, when the same turbos are blowing all over the place, its not just fiat that use that turbo either and its happening to non mapped cars too.

its like fitting dunlop tyres on a car then blaming them if you drive over a nail
 
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Evening Dave. :)

This thread smells fishy...the guy takes the trouble to start a thread like this, which obviously stirs up alot of interest...and then vanishes into thin air?

And the £6k repair bill, you can't be serious?
 
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Why has angel tuning suddenly started getting slated??

Have i missed somthing here?

They're not slated just not favoured, and its not suddenly, been a discussion point for a long time now. I cant begin to portray the ins & outs but I'm sure plenty on here can.
 
I think the whole point of my post has been missed.

This is not a post about Angel Tunning ruining my car. I stated that Angel Tunning remapped my car because , Who mapped your car would have been the first question asked.

If anything this is an anti-remap post. After going through what I have I really can’t see the point in having your car remapped.

According to FFOXY some people who have their cars remapped drive them harder, well I can certainly say that I drove my car to the full potential of the remap, foot to the floor acceleration. But that begs the question that if you are not going to use the remap then why get it? Remapping companies state that what they do to your car will not reduce the life of your car anyway!!

To answer some of the questions asked:

Car was serviced as per fiats schedule i.e after one year full service. The car was then remapped and destroyed prior to its second service. (5 months to go and the car has only convered 6Kish miles)

Can the turbo exploding damage the engine? Yes it would appear so. Bits of the turbo went inside the air intake and were drawn into the engine. Vast quantites of oil also went down the air intake and exhaust causing unbelievable damage. As this all happened instantly the engine also suffered from a drop in oil pressure damaging other components even though the car was brought to a halt in less than 10 seconds.

I appreciate what people are saying about faulty turbos etc but there appears to be no proof of this other than dave’s say so (no disrespect) but there are no posts about it on the fiat forum and I have searched Google for Garrett Turbo failures without success. If anybody can shed some light on this it would be appreciated.

From what I can gather the turbo had over boosted due to the variable geometry vanes failing causing the turbo to fail and cracked the housing. This caused an oil leak and within a few seconds the engine was bone dry and the whole lot went bang (no warning from dash etc). I know that some people would say that this is a turbo failure but I cannot prove that it was a manufacturing error as due to the remap I was asking it to work faster. To use Dave’s tyre analogy If I buy a H speed rated tyre suitable for 130mph I cant complain when it blows up at 150mph even if it was caused by a manufacturing fault!!

Another thing that people seem to be missing is that a remap DOES invalidate your warranty. If you read the small print closely on the remapping sites they tell you that it is “untraceable and therefore wont be discovered” however if it is discovered you will be up the creek.

Assuming that the remap didn’t cause the damage to the car. It still invalidated my warranty. The warrenty is a two way legally binding agreement. You have to look after the car and get it serviced as per the guidelines etc. and in return you get 3 – 5 years peace of mind. However if you don’t play by the rules you don’t have a warranty,


I personally cant see the point in having a remap now, it seemed a great way of having a few extra BHP but it is a false economy.
 
If you read the small print closely on the remapping sites they tell you that it is “untraceable and therefore wont be discovered” however if it is discovered you will be up the creek. [/SIZE][/FONT]

they don't all lie like that. you should have done research first. the information that it can be seen by a dealer has been on the forum for ages
 
do we really want to turn this into another angel tuning vs red dot thread?
I think your explanation is fine Ffoxy...AT just aren't favoured and it isn't at all a sudden slating so if you haven't seen the comments before I don't know where you've been! Just have a search through the forums and i'm sure you'll find the many millions of threads debating Angel Tuning and some other tuning company.

There is nothing wrong with remapping a car...all tuning companies will state in the small print that cars blowing up isn't their problem but there are thousands of cars which are remapped without any issues at all. The GP issues which you have experiences have been happening to both remapped and non-remapped cars...it's just unfortunate...


Besides...if you have declared your Remap to your insurance company then can't you claim the repair costs?
 
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