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Theres no 'real power' just two different measurements.

BHP quotes are usually 'at the wheels' measurements.
remember: BHP = torque x revs
All of the BHP figures I've seen quoted by Red Dot have been at the flywheel and the torque figures at the wheels. What does Red Dot set the transmission losses as? Post up the graph and I think it's possible to work it out from that.

And btw BHP = Torque lbft * RPM / 5252
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All of the BHP figures I've seen quoted by Red Dot have been at the flywheel and the torque figures at the wheels. What does Red Dot set the transmission losses as? Post up the graph and I think it's possible to work it out from that.

And btw BHP = Torque lbft * RPM / 5252
I'm not quite sure what they calculate the losses as but my torque at the fly was back calculated to 314ft lb from 262ft lb at the wheels.

With regards to the equasion, I was trying to think what the extra part to it was!
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What does Red Dot set the transmission losses as?
they dont its pre set by the machine to stop errors
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yer I'm really pleased with it. feels a lot smoother now. The power quote is at the fly not the wheels, and no other mods regarding the engine

so what are the at the wheels figures for both bhp and torque then ?
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they dont its pre set by the machine to stop errors
What does the machine set it as then?
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i take it the v2 is the second run when the map was tweaked so it was 192hp... definetly the highest ive heard from just a map


would be good to get two mapped GP together down santapod and see what the run against each other, etc...
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would be good to get two mapped GP together down santapod and see what the run against each other, etc...
different drivers though, be better to get same driver to take them up and then check times
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Hats off to Red Dot...very impressive looking graph indeed...amazing improvement from what I think is a pretty decent original map from Angel.

What are the main differences in the way it drives and what are the emissions and mpg like with the new map Squirrel?
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emissions should be fine they map with a ega probe up exhaust
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not when i had mine done :P If you can get that kinda bhp out of it without breaking then i wanna go back up there and get it re-remapped! Then induction kit would easily get it near 200.
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Right so... I'm running 181.6 squirrel is running 192.9 but i think the remap is tweaked on squirrels? am i wrong?

I mean seriously the 0-60 will be improved with the extra 11.3bhp by atleast 0.31 seconds an induction kit would then give it an extra say 7-8bhp + 12-13ft-lb extra torque.

Which means weighing in at around 1205kg with full remap and induction kit you would be running 200.9bhp @ 269.6ft-lb torque. 0-60 runs would be near enough 6.3seconds excluding driver.

Thats an extra 70 or so bhp from a remap and induction kit!

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Which means weighing in at around 1205kg with full remap and induction kit you would be running 200.9bhp @ 269.6ft-lb torque. 0-60 runs would be near enough 6.3seconds excluding driver!
Who's driving?...hahaha....Have you trained your hamster to do speed runs?

Your dreaming with that 0-60 time...it's hard enough getting the power down in first and second gear standard, never mind with those figures chewing up the tyres!
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Which means weighing in at around 1205kg with full remap and induction kit you would be running 200.9bhp @ 269.6ft-lb torque. 0-60 runs would be near enough 6.3seconds excluding driver.


Thats faster than a standard 20VT coupe
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Right so... I'm running 181.6 squirrel is running 192.9 but i think the remap is tweaked on squirrels? am i wrong?

I mean seriously the 0-60 will be improved with the extra 11.3bhp by atleast 0.31 seconds an induction kit would then give it an extra say 7-8bhp + 12-13ft-lb extra torque.

Which means weighing in at around 1205kg with full remap and induction kit you would be running 200.9bhp @ 269.6ft-lb torque. 0-60 runs would be near enough 6.3seconds excluding driver.

Thats an extra 70 or so bhp from a remap and induction kit!

I want this!
I'm running more than both of you at the moment and my 0-60 is nowhere near the high 6s let alone 6.3! Is nobody taking into consideration torque figures here aswell?

You can't predict things like this on maths, every engine is different and the induction kit will give different gains to different cars.
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