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Firstly would like to say hello all as this is my first post on this forum!

I have been watching the forum for about a month or so now as I'm very interested in buying a Grande Punto, and this is the best place to see if there are problems/issues with specific models (I had a bad experience with a Volvo and have learnt my lesson - long story!)

I have a few questions but to start with its 130 mjet or 120 Tjet??

The brochure I have from fiat doesn't haev to 120 figures in it, but from other sites like Parkers and Auto Express it looks like the 120 is quicker off the line and higher top speed. The T-jet is also cheaper to buy and undoubtably quieter when running (how noisey is the 130?). The fuel consumption figures are very close so theres no real benefit there (although people on here have reported lower figures for T-jet), and i've been told diesel servicing and tax is more expensive. So, if this is all true, why should I get a 130 rather than the 120 and, more importantly, why do I still want a 130 and not the 120??? Head or Heart?? :confused:

Cheers.
 
Personally I went for the best model they had, and that was the M-Jet 130. Diesels in general aren't very good off the line but if you place it in 2nd you wont have any issues... I'm getting my M-jet remapped to 190bhp which will mean quicker 0-60, higher top out speed, more torque and better fuel consumption... think about the future, would you rather have second best?

Personally i'm annoyed they are bringing out the abarth because i got the top model at the time! hell this was only in may! I love my 130, soon to be 190 and i think you'd love it too.

Have you test drove them both yet? If not... why! do it now and see for yourself... don't just read about, physically test drive them mate!

Regards,

Tim
 
i am bias towards the T-Jet as i have one, they are very simular in figures, the T-Jet is faster off the line due to the weight factor, the way i decided was if you do long journeys every day then get the M-Jet if not, get the T-Jet and be different. (y)
 
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Drive both over a long varied route then make the personal choice. :D
 
Don't worry, I will test drive them both, although think i already know what i will find - T-jet quicker and quieter...

But still think i'd be inclinded to go for m-jet, i just dont know why, so was wondering the reasons you all had for buying the respective models.

So far it was pretty much what i expected - everyone prefers their own (which is how it should be), but is there anyone who has one but wished they'd bought the other?
 
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0-60 figures are not a fair representation of the M-jet performance, due to gearing and the general nature of diesels, 0-60 is never impressive in comparison to power. As soon as you hit second you're away, with better in gear performance than car with a better 0-60.

The M-jet is a little easier to tune and generally will have higher performance gains from less mods, BUT in due course there will be more available in the way of tuning for the T-jet. My M-jet is running 176.9bhp and 253 ft lb torque, and thats from a remap, something which to t-jet won't gain as much in.

As for MPG the figures sound the same but its all bolloks, thrash your t-jet and watch the gauge go down alot faster than the M-jet, and as for top speed i've had 141mph out of my M-jet so i wouldn't worry about the slight differences.

As for noise then it's the t-jet that wins, it will be quieter standard and sound brilliant with the appropriate breathing mods. I can't defend the M-jet there apart from say It's very quiet on the inside of the car and doesn't sound too bad higher up in the revs.

So it's up to you mate, depends on what mpg you do, how bothered you are about noise and tuneability.

Hope thats helped.
 
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puntokris said:
0-60 figures are not a fair representation of the M-jet performance, due to gearing and the general nature of diesels, 0-60 is never impressive in comparison to power. As soon as you hit second you're away, with better in gear performance than car with a better 0-60.

The M-jet is a little easier to tune and generally will have higher performance gains from less mods, BUT in due course there will be more available in the way of tuning for the T-jet. My M-jet is running 176.9bhp and 253 ft lb torque, and thats from a remap, something which to t-jet won't gain as much in.

As for MPG the figures sound the same but its all bolloks, thrash your t-jet and watch the gauge go down alot faster than the M-jet, and as for top speed i've had 141mph out of my M-jet so i wouldn't worry about the slight differences.

As for noise then it's the t-jet that wins, it will be quieter standard and sound brilliant with the appropriate breathing mods. I can't defend the M-jet there apart from say It's very quiet on the inside of the car and doesn't sound too bad higher up in the revs.

So it's up to you mate, depends on what mpg you do, how bothered you are about noise and tuneability.

Hope thats helped.
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Insurance is the same for both. group 6
Performance is better with the T-Jet. ( Talking standard here M-Jet guys. )
Economy is better with the M-Jet.
More than 15K miles a year I'd recommend the M-Jet less than 10K miles a year the T-Jet. In between those numbers, well it really depends how you drive and your personal views on the 2 cars.
I'm a B-road blaster so the T-Jet is more my thing. Dualers and motorways the M-Jet is the beast your looking for.
But thats just my point of view. :)
 
It's simply best to try both versions straight after one another as I did on my test drive. I too was confused and having the same thoughts, but with a bias towards the T-Jet mainly because it was cheaper.

But....I bought the M-Jet!? It is the better performer overall and anywhere you go whether it's a B-C-or D road you'll find that it's (to use a motoring journalists phrase) 'real world' performance is considerably more satisfying even with the standard 130 bhp.

I'm not sure whether the noisy engine comments are anything to worry about either....Ok, so it has a typical diesel idle sound but on reflection this is still one of the smoothest diesel engines in production. When you drive a T-Jet and you put you foot down it fills the cabin with an equally audible drone, although different, so not much of an issue.

Try them both and decide for yourself! Good luck.
 
I would go for the multi-jet.

as its a diesel it may work out cheaper to insure, and will do better mpg :D

as whats been mentioned above most diesels with that power have poor accleration in 1st, but getinto 2nd over 25/30mph and they fly after then (y)

the decision is up to you.

the diesel might also be worth more when you come to sell it
 
The sound an the fact the petrol engines have high rpm's will win it every time for me :)

I have driven the 130 a few thousand miles, and although it seems to have lots of power, its not as fun as riding up to 7K before the shift.

I am a petrol head lol

Kristian
 
lol don't know about the 7k before a change, don't wana break mine yet, only had it a week
 
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lol don't know about the 7k before a change, don't wana break mine yet, only had it a week
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I must admit i do miss the thrashing of a petrol :D

cant wait till im next in the garage and get a grande punto for a courtesy car (or a new panda 100 like they said they would be getting soon :D).

my diesel will only spin to about 4.5k before it redlines :(, but i do still get a little turbo whistle from it - but its not as nice as it would be on a petrol turbo :idea:
 
t-jet -m-jet same old same old.simple most young
guys who buy a m-jet will get it remapped eventually?thats the big bonus with m-jet REMAPPED with that done.game over t-jet owners no competition :slayer::D
 
jassyo said:
t-jet -m-jet same old same old.simple most young
guys who buy a m-jet will get it remapped eventually?thats the big bonus with m-jet REMAPPED with that done.game over t-jet owners no competition :slayer::D
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Don't the likes of Celtic tuning now remap the T-Jet? If so, with the significant weight advantage the T Jet has I think it would be bye, bye, M Jet, especially on a B road.
 
Shropshire_lad said:
Don't the likes of Celtic tuning now remap the T-Jet? If so, with the significant weight advantage the T Jet has I think it would be bye, bye, M Jet, especially on a B road.
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explain please bye,bye m-jet:confused:if both are remapped
 
jassyo said:
explain please bye,bye m-jet:confused:if both are remapped
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The T jet is 150kg lighter for starters...

The M jet is nose heavy and can easily get out of shape from what I discovered on my test drive. :eek:

On anything but a motorway the T Jet should have the edge in my opinion as it should handle much sharper.

Just my opinion....
 
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