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28-12-2006
<b>A few points to note!</b><br />
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A relay <u>must</u> be fitted in the circuit.<u>DO NOT</u> try and wire fog lights directly to any other circuit,do not go near the body computer or try and utilise the original menu/rear fog multifunction switchbank as doing so will cause damage to your
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Re: Fitting front fog lights

Does anyone know how much Fiat would charge to put these on the car (got the car so would need to be an after addition?)
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Re: Fitting front fog lights

Where do you buy the switches from?
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Re: Fitting front fog lights

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Re: Fitting front fog lights

I am also looking to install front fog lights on my '99 Grande Punto. From what I can see the physical wiring is in place and the relay/ fusebox connected with the appropriate terminals. I have also checked the wiring to the rear of the switch panel that controls the fog lights and this also seems to have everything in place.

I managed to find a workshop manual for the grande punto with some wiring diagrams which suggests the wiring is in place and the control module will operate the fogs if the parts are retro fitted. The problem i have is that the workshop guide seems to differ to my actual car in terms of the under bonnet fuse box and relay layout.

From the manual it suggests that fuse 31 and relay T14 neo be added to operate the front fog lights. In paractice I dont have a fuse 31 position and the fuse 30 that is listed in the owners handbook is in fact already there. Position T14 is already populated too suggesting either the wiring has changed and its now another relay that controls the front fogs or that the relays and fuses are already present and all i need do is get the control unit activated by a fiat dealer.

Please if someone has a grande punto with front fogs can they let me know which relays are present in their engine bay. Thanks

Some pictures of my fuse box etc.

Front Fog light cable is present in engine bay




Relay 14 is already present but relay 5 which is also listed as part of the front fog light system is not. Relay 5 T5 sist next to T14 on the top right of the picture



This is relay of 20A load
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Re: Fitting front fog lights

I have a 2009 Grande Punto 1.4 T-Jet. It does not have front fog lights.

The console on the dashboard does not include the switch for front fog lamps but I can purchase a new console from a local car breaker. The plug that fits into this console seems to include an unused wire that, with the ignition and lights on, has a 12V power supply. Coming from the same wiring harness as the headlamps, are unused leads with plugs that clearly seem to be intended for fog lamps. In the fuse box, there is one fuse point that is unused. If I bought the new console and a set of fog lamps and fitted them, would my car “explode?” I'd really appreciate any advice you can give.

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Re: Fitting front fog lights

Anyone had any luck with this? Trying the same thing myself. I've fitted a new control panel and front fogs, but am not getting them to work.
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Re: Fitting front fog lights

Love the guide, has really got me motivated I noticed most of the foglights on ebay are chrome and not black like urs. would you know any places that sell the black foglights.
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Re: Fitting front fog lights

So, did anyone get this to work?

Checked the small print of my T&C's and it says that Fiat would invalidate my warranty if I modify the car....

If it's just a missing relay or fuse, could someone post a pic (or two) of their configurations? Thanks.
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Hi, I fitted my G/P with fogs last week, found your guide very helpful
But being a novice I struggled a bit, fitted the switch under the c/lighter in case I need to use it sometime. Thanks for your info...
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Re: Fitting front fog lights

My foglights have stopped working!
I installed them 9 months ago using this guide and they worked perfectly day in day out. Both fogs went out at the same time just after I switched them on.
After some checks, the bulbs are fine and none of the 3 fuses have blown. I also checked the cigarette lighter and it works too.

I think its the relay that has blown but how do I check?
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Re: Fitting front fog lights

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My foglights have stopped working!
I installed them 9 months ago using this guide and they worked perfectly day in day out. Both fogs went out at the same time just after I switched them on.
After some checks, the bulbs are fine and none of the 3 fuses have blown. I also checked the cigarette lighter and it works too.

I think its the relay that has blown but how do I check?
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sounds silly but have you checked the bulbs (i had a car blow both headlamps in one go a few years ago)

as for the relay


buy a new one and put it in they only cost a couple of quid i have had to replace mine as the lid of my water proof box decided to come adrift and let water in and corrode the contacts inside the relay making them very intermittent


if you have access to a test lamp or multimeter (the relay pins are marked usually)

connect one probe to pin 85 on your relay ( ov/ negative) and the other end of the probe to test the "inputs"

touch a probe to pin 30 and it should be live all the time (its the supply from the battery)

next test pin 86 this should be live when the switch is on and dead when the switch is off (testing that the switch is working)

finally test pin 87 this one supplies the fog lights if there is no power here or a low voltage the relay is dead
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sounds silly but have you checked the bulbs (i had a car blow both headlamps in one go a few years ago)

as for the relay


buy a new one and put it in they only cost a couple of quid i have had to replace mine as the lid of my water proof box decided to come adrift and let water in and corrode the contacts inside the relay making them very intermittent


if you have access to a test lamp or multimeter (the relay pins are marked usually)

connect one probe to pin 85 on your relay ( ov/ negative) and the other end of the probe to test the "inputs"

touch a probe to pin 30 and it should be live all the time (its the supply from the battery)

next test pin 86 this should be live when the switch is on and dead when the switch is off (testing that the switch is working)

finally test pin 87 this one supplies the fog lights if there is no power here or a low voltage the relay is dead
Thanks Andy, you were right about the bulbs, I should have checked them properly
After removing them from the housing turned out they had expired. I ordered the Ring Xenon Max bulbs off ebay and they work really well

Thanks again for your help
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Re: Fitting front fog lights

Just trying to figure out if getting a switch panel with the proper button is as easy to do as using an aftermarket switch? Would prefer if everything looked standard tbh ...
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not worth the hastle Frazer

you seen my wiring guide in my gallery wish i'd have known before i part exed mine i'd have swapped carries Blanks for the sporting fogs off mine after the pittance they gave me part ex


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