My battleField 2142 wont run. Tis the last time I buy a game EVER!

Graphics: Geforce 4 TI4600 128MB
Sound: Sonic Fury 5.1
Processor: Intel P4 2.53 GHZ
RAM: 1GB
Hard Disk Space: toooo much (I know never too much but alot)

OS: Windows XP Pro SP2

I Tired an External, Internal and Virtual DVD Rom drives. I even tried crack and it never made a difference.

When I run the game the splash screen appears then the screen goes black then it goes back to desktop.

I looked at the EA support advice and none of it helped. The most help they gave is that the game has not been tested with my Graphics card.

I know my card is classic but I'm sure it can run this game I seen it on a mates laptop and I know my machine would **** all over it for game power.

Anyone using the same G-card as me and have the game working?

theyre kinda specific with what it can and cant run on

i tried running BF2 on my laptop, which had the right gfx card, but the laptop "Go" edition, and its didn't work properly

ended up building the computer im on now just to play it

is there a chance you could try a gfx card that is in there list of tested cards?

That means buying a new Graphics Card Think I'll just return it and get my money back... and keep the CD key for later.

I thought the 'TI' cards were better then the 'FX' cards

Works just divine for me

And I am only using an AGP card, albeit a very fast ATi X850XT PE 256Mb.

The GF4 Ti range do not fully support and accelerate DX9 games which that ones is. BF2 is also unsupported on that GF4 range. Might be time to upgrade dude .

It was doing exactly the same as that on my Fiancee's grandads computer when he was launching BF2 I had to upgrade his Gfx Card.

There is no point in upgrading single components.

I'll just build a whole new machine again, but it will have to wait unfortunately

Although my machine is still quite the "bollacks" it it using old school equipment.

Still on IDE on AGP, need to get myself some SATA and PCIE for conclusive crrRRAZZy speeds

I asked Nvida if there was anything I could do:

Is there any way I can trick my GeForce Ti4600 (AGP) into thinking it is a better Nvidia card so that I can run BattleField 2142?

I know my computer is powerful enough but EA didn't test the game with this card and the game doesn't even attempt to run, just goes back to desktop after the splash screen.

Perhaps edit the registry or flash it with a different Bios?

It has to be one of these it seems:

6600 (PCIe), PCX 5900 (PCIe).
5800 series (AGP).
6800 Ultra, 6800 GT, 6800.
FX 5950 series, FX 5900 series, FX 5700 series.

Drivers = 93.71
Sound = Video Logic SonicFury (Turtle Beach, Santa Cruz)
Processor = Intel P4 2.533 GHZ
Memory = 1GB
Disk Space = Plenty
OS = XP pro S2
DX version = 9.0c

Thanks


Nvidia Wrote:

Nvidia Customer Care said:

Thank you for contacting NVIDIA Customer Care.

With reference to your query with respect to compatibility of GeForce Ti 4600 (AGP) with BattleField 2142, we would like to make the following suggestions.

Please note that the above mentioned card supports only Pixel Shader Model 1.3 and DirectX 8.1. We understand that one needs a graphics card that supports DirectX 9.0c and Pixel Shader Model 2.0 to play BattleField 2142 game. Hence, a GeForce Ti 4600 based graphics card will not be able to produce the best performance while playing the game and that is reason the game manufacturer did not test the game on the above referred card.

Further, NVIDIA does not recommend you to edit the Windows registry to make the card appear as a better one. However, to update the BIOS we would request you to contact your card manufacturer for obtaining updated BIOS. (Please note that NVIDIA manufactures only the GPU chipsets and not the final graphics cards. NVIDIA supplies the graphics chipsets to graphics card manufacturing companies who make the final graphics card based on NVIDIA graphics chipsets.)

If you have any further queries or concerns, please revert.

With regards,

NVIDIA Customer Care.

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Yeah I pretty much new that tbh . I found some weird dirty patch for BF2 and a GF Ti 4200 and it played but looked absolutly filthy totally unplayable there was no textures or anything anywhere . So if you think you can by pass it your wrong .

You can't return PC games as it is the CD key that you are buying, not the actual game, and as CD keys are unique there is very little chance that they will actually give you your money back ---they'll prob think you are scamming them.

That gfx card is not good enough in the slightest to run, I have a 7800GT overclocked with 2GB of RAM and still get slight glitches

Like you said earlier, there is no point in upgrading your gfx as everything is about to change with Vista coming out in the near future. All new games will ONLY be compatible with Vista and DirectX 10 which means anything below is basically gonna be obsolete, same with AGP (I noticed you have an AGP motherboard), everything is gonna be made PCI, so its either wait it out and save some pennies up or get a new grafix card that will only be of any use for about 6 months (if that!)

2142 isn't that good anyway, BF2 is SO much better, so you're not missing ANYTHING imo!

Franny

Frannybum said:

You can't return PC games as it is the CD key that you are buying, not the actual game, and as CD keys are unique there is very little chance that they will actually give you your money back ---they'll prob think you are scamming them.

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Game, 28 day money back guarantee. They wrote it, its my right. Its not up to them to decide whether I'm scamming them or not after they promised me my money back if it didn't work.

Frannybum said:

That gfx card is not good enough in the slightest to run, I have a 7800GT overclocked with 2GB of RAM and still get slight glitches

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My computer is configured for optimum performance, Ive seen computer with much higher specs then mine get out performed doing a lot of things, specially games.

Frannybum said:

Like you said earlier, there is no point in upgrading your gfx as everything is about to change with Vista coming out in the near future. All new games will ONLY be compatible with Vista and DirectX 10 which means anything below is basically gonna be obsolete, same with AGP (I noticed you have an AGP motherboard), everything is gonna be made PCI, so its either wait it out and save some pennies up or get a new grafix card that will only be of any use for about 6 months (if that!)

2142 isn't that good anyway, BF2 is SO much better, so you're not missing ANYTHING imo!
Franny

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BF2142 still runs in win98 so I doubt that "all new games will ONLY work on vista" and not work on XP considering XP is not that old and as a game manufacturer I'd want my game to be as compatible as possible so that more people buy it.
I've played BF2142 and watched it being played, I know I'm missing out, I'm missing out a great deal.

I was referring to when Vista comes out, not now.

I got my information from my boyfriend who is a computer technician, therefore working in the industry. He refuses to update anything atm as graphics cards will need to have directx10 in the near future to support new games.

Game manufacturers won't loose any money by doing this as there is always gonna be a market for them. If that was the case performance parts (graphics cards, ram, cpus etc) wouldn't be updating as fast as they are, because they would be progressing too much for game manufacturers...for instance there are games out there that can only run on 98/2000 and not XP but it didn't stop game programmers creating new games.

Have you tried updating the drivers for your grafix card? this might help get the game started...just go to the nVidia website.

You could also try turning EVERYTHING on your computer off that is running in the background that you don't need and try it then, to try get as much bandwith as possible.

Franny

I think for all new games to be compatible with VISTA only will be a lot more then near future depending on what your perception of near is.

My point is now, 1998 was 8 years ago and manufacturers are still making games which are compatible with that operating system so in my opinon it is incorrect for you or your boyfriend to say that games will soon be incompatible with XP especially seeing as Vista is probably just like a tarted up XP, it is a bit unlikely don't you think? after all MS only recently stopped support for win98.

There are cards which currently support DX10 so if your bf wants to upgrade he can. Remember software engineers try to make things backwards compatible where ever possible and hardware engineers compensate by trying to design things which are forwards compatible.

When I got my Card I think we were still at DX6 maybe even7 and has been compatible up to Version 8.1 and ran games which shipped with 9.

What does your Boyfriend do exactly?

Being a computer technician does not make you knowledgeable about gaming technology's and software engineering its a completely different field. Anyone can go to college or ring computeach and be a 'technician'. Once he comes back competent as a Software engineer, Hardware engineer then I'll listen.

And yes XP still has years left in it MS will still support it for a long time yet. The Army and Navy are still using Win98 with planned upgrades to 2000 for early 2007. The Air Force are currently using a custom build of Win2000 which should be upgraded to XP Aug2007 if all goes to plan .

ChrisUK said:

Being a computer technician does not make you knowledgeable about gaming technology's and software engineering its a completely different field. Anyone can go to college or ring computeach and be a 'technician'. Once he comes back competent as a Software engineer, Hardware engineer then I'll listen.

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He specialises in Gaming rigs, he's been building and working on them for years.

He doesn't have qualifications, like you said anyone can get qualifications, he just knows a hell of a lot about computers and being in the industry he gets told things about the progression of gaming software, developments and system software.

We are talking about gaming components/software not other programs...any office software (microsoft office etc...) can work on any OS as long as there is enough RAM and hard drive space so the army reverence is irrelevant imo.

I wasn't trying to start an arguement I was simply giving advice as to not buy a new gfx card yet as it will need updating again by the end of the next year (at the least!) if you plan on buying more PC games.

Directx10 graphics cards are vatsly progressing thats why he doesn't want to buy one now, same as when we bought our present graphics card, it was the best on the market, within a couple of months there was so much more progression, it went up to 8 series and ati brought out stonkingly good gfx cards.

You are right in saying games will still be supported, but the quality of the game won't be supported (if that makes sense).

I apologise if I have got any of this wrong as I haven't spoken to him about it for a while, I just remember him telling me hes not gonna buy a new graphics card for a while yet and the Vista point and directx10 being the reason.

Franny

Frannybum said:

I wasn't trying to start an arguement

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No one intends to start arguments... well you know what I mean, there are some but they are crazy

Its just that some of the information in your post was not accurate or perhaps did not come accross as you intended. If an amature read this they may spend money or make upgrades they didn't need to.

Can your BF get me a budget card that is laying aroudn one day at work that I can use to play BF2142? I'll get you some free Cineworld Cinema Tickets in exhange

No one intends to start arguments... well you know what I mean, there are some but they are crazy

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LMAO

Yeah i'll be able to get him to get you one...he'll get it with a discount though so it might not have to be budget

Its cool, I already have a free pass for VUE cinemas You can just forgive me for misleading you and anyone else! and also if I am wrong, which I am quite a lot of the time (somethin new a girl admitting she gets it wrong !) then you can forgive me then in return for a graphics card

Have we got a deal?

Franny

just realised you meant a free one

I'll see what I can do

He's not home from work for a few hours so when he gets back i'll ask him what hes got lying around

Franny

Yes, Free is good

There is one available to buy on Scan Computer for around £40 but like we both agree, I can't justify that for a few month gaming

I'd take a free one though, would even exchange my Ti4600 for a slighty better card that can play me that game.

A few nights ago when I was desperately trying to get that game to work while my mates were already playing, I heard them having so much jokes through TeamSpeak (The microphone gamer talk thing) and it was worse then when you are invited clubbing and cant make it and get told the stories of what a mad night you missed.

he hasn't got one you can have for free, but he's trying to think of the cheapest agp in stock atm...

i'll keep you updated

Franny

Ok, this is Tom, the elusive boyfriend.

Franny has got a bit mixed up on a few things, but in reply to what chrisUK said...pull your head outta your ass! If you truly are as ignorant as you appear, then i must question your reasons for being a member of a forum, seeing as you clearly don't care about other peoples opinions!

Now, onto VGAs. Directx10 IS the future and so to most people it would seem silly NOT to upgrade to DX10 cards. However, The kind developers of DX have made DX9L to replace the DX9C that we are currently using that incorporates most of the features of DX10 free of charge, so that saves us £400-£600 in 8800s! So, you could purchase a 7600GT for around £130 that will run 2142 on HIGH with no problems what so ever! You will also be able to run DX9L with that card, so you get 3/4 of the benefit of DX10

You already have 1GB DDR RAM, which is fine, your processor imo is a bit poor, but i only have a Athlon 3200+ OCd to 2.6 (4.1 intel GHz) so if you are overclocked then its prolly cool. Your card does need replacing to play any modern games well at a respectable FPS. Thats really all you should need to do to speed the system up, so long as you have kept on top of your spyware and drive defragmentation

As for our system.

We are running:-

700W Power Extreme OCZ PSU
Jetway GT4 SLI Mobo
2GB PC3200 RAM Overclocked MASSIVELY (stable)
AMD Athlon 3200+ OCd to 2.6GHz (had it to 2.8, unstable )
Nvidia 7800GT MASSIVELY Overclocked to faster than GTX speeds.
1/2TB (2 x 250GB) RAID 0

OBLIVION, the most graphically demanding game available runs at Ultra High settings on our rig. There is nothing on the market that has tested our system yet. But, if Chris refuses to listen to knowledgeable people, thats his choice. Guess he will never learn anything.

I have a 6200+ that you could have, but you will have to run 800x600 all settings on LOW in order to run it, and even then, i dont know what the experience will be like

Yours for the taking though if you wanna pay postage

Hope to see you at a meet mate when we get this f*ckin car sorted I used to be at ACE Cafe all the time with my bike clubs. Squires Milk Bar up north is better though

Later dude

Tom