To be fair, the memory sticks are pretty good. I have a 1GB one in my SonyEricsson K750i and its very fast to transfer data to/from. And the phone is awesome, as I'm sure anyone who has one or has used one will agree.
Fair enough, I see your point about them creating their own media for everything, but the memory sticks/minidisc etc. are certainly not crap.
btw I'm not a Sony fanboy Never owned a Playstation, and besides my phone and stereo, I can't think of any other Sony products I own

In relation to the consoles, don't buy a console because they say they can do 1000000000000000000 teraflops of calculations a second, and that they can make photo-realistic graphics etc. That seems to be the marketing strategy of MS and Sony, and a lot of developers have turned away from the PS3 now because of the Cell processor. Its so complicated and expensive to program for that most companies will end up losing money on their games. The same goes for the 360 and its multiple core processors. Finally, I was reading an article about the projected cost to develop a game for the 3 next-gen systems;
XBox 360 - Around £2million
PS3 - Around £2million
Nintendo Revolution - Around £200,000

The NR is so cheap to develop because the system is based on the Gamecube. Sure, it won't crunch the same numbers as the other 2, but the numbers that Sony and MS talk about are like ICE companies telling you their Sub is 2000W or whatever, when it's only 200W RMS. The systems will never perform to those levels, and the in-game graphics will never be able to match up to the trailers they show you. The NR is like a highly modified Cinq with a turbo on it up against a Standard 2.0l saloon (360 or PS3). Sure the saloon looks bigger and quotes big number, but the Cinq would give it a run for its money I'm sure (I'm not sure. I don't know much about modifying engines and whether the Cinq would actually beat the saloon, but I'm using it as an example ).

So anyway, in short I shall be holding on for the Revolution (Nintendo fan boy)

I will not be buying a 360, instead i am waiting for the PS3 which will rape the 360 in a years time

AppleSei said:

i am waiting for the PS3 which will rape the 360 in a years time

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On paper, yes

i seem to remember the xbox1 having the same way of thinking . on paper the xbox1rapes ps2 in every single way and in game also its rapes. the gfx is so superoior. no one can deny that. even the game makers put improved gfx in ther games on xbox as it could handle them. BUT the ps2 allways sold more it was out first and created a huge fanbase and a massive game catalogue.
i think the biggest problem the ps3 will face is rthe fact its going to be released so long after the xbox2 this could create a simalar situation to what i mentioned before.

i agree the ps3 on paper looks superior but as has been metioned before on paper means bugger all. have to wait to see in real life. in meantime xbox2 will have pelnty of time to develope its games and fanbase before its realsed.

thefishdude said:

i think the biggest problem the ps3 will face is rthe fact its going to be released so long after the xbox2 this could create a simalar situation to what i mentioned before.

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Which is why the PSP exists

the psp ?? the portable to big to fit in your pocket games machine and mp3/movie player ? it aint even a console how can a psp be compared to a stand alone games console

Its a marketing thing

Exactly, they knew that the PSP would hopefully take away xmas and pre-xmas sales from the Xbox hopefully giving enough time for the PS3 to be released before everybody has bough the xbox. It was a marketing decision, even the marketing exec. said so on a recent program about consoles and the difficulties that MS were having in making sufficient numbers of consoles.

When I said "he said so" it was more of a smirk and chuckle.

KoArAnG said:

Doing that would also stop you from using the xbox live service and that alone makes chipping a silly thing to do IMO. I'd rather have one game that can be used forever on live than have a whole load copied onto my machine that mean nothing to me.

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Ya can actually have the best of both worlds, The chip can be turned on and off, its not always wen wen u start the machine. So if you have the real version you can still play online.

Well the last thing I wanted from this thread was for it to turn into another "mine is better than your's " topic.
All three systems can happily live alongside each other and people who slate one machine over another are just missing out on all the great games :nono:
I have owned pretty much all the major consoles over the years and came to the conclusion it's not worth arguing about which one is best.
At the moment I own a Gamecube because I love nintendos commitment to gameplay. I own a PS2 because I like the fact that it gets a lot of games to choose from, including Virtua Fighter ( best fighting game ever)
I own an Xbox because simply it's a far more powerful machine than the others and any multi format game looks better on it, also the xbox is chipped with the evo2 chip so I don't have to keep getting up to play a different game as they are on the HD as well as in my cupboard.
I own a PSP because graphically it's the best handheld machine and will be for the forseable future. I own a nintendo DS ( well 2 actually) because the games are very original. I also own a top end PC for gaming because I'm a massive FPS fan and there's no better way to play them.

So please no more of the bigger better posts eh, we are all gonna have reasons for liking one machine more than the other and a lot of the time those reasons will be very biased.

My 360 will be with me very soon as it's being provided by my work as developement has started on a 360 game, and the 360 is far easier to develop for than the PS3 will be, that's a fact But it won't stop me from buying the sony machine or the revolution.

KoArAnG said:

Chipped machines run copied games......

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Cheers Koa. I do actually know what chipped ones do I just wondered how it might be described as unlocking the full potential.
It's a bit like saying that recommissioning a replica firearm unlocks its full potential as I can now carry out bank robberies.
However, maybe I should start a separate thread for that particular discussion topic

So you play on live as is? I'm Mu91 if anyone cares to play.

PhatAshKi said:

Ya can actually have the best of both worlds, The chip can be turned on and off, its not always wen wen u start the machine. So if you have the real version you can still play online.

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are referring to the xbox1,the 360 is always on live and since no one has chipped it yet you cant say that fro sure

moogs said:

Cheers Koa. I do actually know what chipped ones do I just wondered how it might be described as unlocking the full potential.
It's a bit like saying that recommissioning a replica firearm unlocks its full potential as I can now carry out bank robberies.
However, maybe I should start a separate thread for that particular discussion topic

So you play on live as is? I'm Mu91 if anyone cares to play.

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also you have other factors such as xbox media centre which for me is a great reason to chip an xbox,being able to play from a larger hard drive is great. mario kart 64 on your xbox anyone?

remeber its a pc in a box albeit with some limiting factors such as ram.you can even run linux on them

OK, chipped Xbox for above reasons is one thing. But do you also have pirated games on it?

if its a game im not bothered about yes if its a game i want eg gotham,halo 2,half life 2 to name a few then i want the originals.
also forget to mention homebrew games such as the recently ported quake 3.

this is one of the reasons M$ are going with 'free' basic live access to discourage pirated games.

I haven't preordered one, but is it true Asda haven't done preorders and its first come first served at midnight?

I have bought GC, DC, PS1 & 2, Saturn on release days and been well stung....£400 for a Saturn! This time I'm tempted to wait 6 months and save myself around £100 hopefully.

As top pack is £280, then I need the £18 SCART lead, plus a game = £340! But temptation may mean I'm down Asda at 12 if they have them!

dunno about asda but it is 'cheap' for a launch console in real terms

also you have other factors such as xbox media centre which for me is a great reason to chip an xbox,being able to play from a larger hard drive is great. mario kart 64 on your xbox anyone?

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As well as thousands of other games that would be lost in time unless emulators keep them going. Mario 64 is a timeless classic as well as all the old bomberman games

The 360 is extremeley cheap at launch and for once people can feel like they are not getting a raw deal in the UK. £280 for what you get is exceptional value IMO and in 6 months I can't see it being an awfull lot less than that for the deluxe pack.

I actually had one on pre order but I cancelled the order when work told me i'd be getting one sent, I should have kept it on order TBH as it will be worth a bit once the initial batch dries up.

moogs said:

Cheers Koa. I do actually know what chipped ones do I just wondered how it might be described as unlocking the full potential.
It's a bit like saying that recommissioning a replica firearm unlocks its full potential as I can now carry out bank robberies.
However, maybe I should start a separate thread for that particular discussion topic

So you play on live as is? I'm Mu91 if anyone cares to play.

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I used to play on live I gave my little boy my xbox as he's a mad gamer and I'm getting the 360. My user name was the same as the forum user name and I made the top ten a few times on PG2 But I will be playing on live with the 360 as I'll get the gold membership.

i have owned most consoles and gave them away to family members. the only one i still hold is the xbox as i do feel gameplay is awesome! and halo 2 rocks!!! i also have the 360 preordered. im getting the deluxe pack with a second wireless controller and perfect dark zero. and probably the wi-fi adapter too! will probably get the ps3 at some point but not in any real hurry. as koa said its down to personal choice. (and mine atm is ms). roll on halo 3!!!!