Hi all , new to the forum after not long buying a 1.3 12 plate Fiorino and seem to be getting the usual problems , my latest is the glow plug warning light , i have done a few searches now and cant see what i need to know !

I wanted to test the resistance of the plugs before i buy any as i have seen that it could be certain electrical connections elswhere .
This is where i noticed the lack of room to get to said glowplugs !
Can anybody enlighten me as to what has to come off to get the plugs out , i have in the past removed stuff and wasted time doing so !
I see the turbo and exhaust as being right in the way , what has to come off or down to get it done please .

I already got caught out with the starter motor bolt , before i realised it was cunningly hidden in the other side of the bell housing whilst doing the clutch :bang:
All help and tips thankfully accepted
Cheers Rih

Hi. The engine is used in LOTS of vehicles. I would use the forums excellent SEARCH feature..panda section is a good start. Charlie
Oxford
Cardiff

Thanks for reply , i have looked in the panda section with no joy , and as i dont Know what else the engine is in i am none the wiser , I just assumed that maybe another member might have done it before and could shed some light , i will just have to keep looking !

Im on a phone so best search is unavailable...

Vauxhall opel also use it..

If you wiki the
Engine.. there are 10 manufacturers all using it.

Hi RichFiorino,
Welcome to the wonderful world of the Qubist/Fiorinoist.....great little motors.......enjoy.
Cheers Qube O.

Thanks Qube O , I have my old man to blame , he got the met green Qubo so i went and got the fiorino for some reason , i was always a T4 man before , just wanted small for a change .
As to my dilema i have just found a step by step on you tube on an astra 1.3 lump and it shows dpf and a fair bit getting removed , the turbo seemed to stay in place though , so i think i will go with that and hope for the best !
Before i do though ......could there be anything im missing on checking out , i checked out the battery just in case it might be that , the only other thing is a relay that i have seen mentioned with a possible wiring fault ?
I thought i might whip my old mans if i knew where to find it , just to check of course !

Oh and the problem is the dash light and check glow plug message , it does start but i dont want to get caught out from it getting colder now !

My advice is to hold your fire for a while until you get to know it more. Look up multiecuscan and you will discover very powerful and affordable diagnostics are available. It would have to be Arctic before a real glow plug issue really took effect, it might yet be a wiring issue.

RichFiorino said:

Oh and the problem is the dash light and check glow plug message , it does start but i dont want to get caught out from it getting colder now !

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did that help with location of the socket.. for diagnostics?,

I read the excellent GUIDE in the stilo section for my JTD.. as the light has flashed for the 3 years I've owned it..

got REALLY random readings.. and knew what a PIA they are to access / change I've left well alone

my experience of ancient diesels says it's lousy connections rather than "broken" glow plugs

OK , I looked at the Stilo guide , very good thanks , i will check the plugs to get them out of the equasion , problem now is where to find the relay in question , looked on the bulkhead and cant see it for looking , i even went to the main dealer to see one , he said it was on the bulkhead too !
WHERE IS THE DARN THING ????? PLEASE !

Look at post by Derv drinker

Had a thread running on the job in a pands with ivantate

Panic over all done .
Turns out that the relay is to be found underneath the coolant header tank !
Not that it did me any good as i got no readings at all off any of the glow plugs , my brother said to take a live off the battery and touch iton the end of each glow plug , if it sparks its good if not then shot .
Not one of them sparked , which would explain recent poor starting !

Under the header tank doesn't seem like a clever place for electrical items.

RichFiorino said:

Panic over all done .
Turns out that the relay is to be found underneath the coolant header tank !
Not that it did me any good as i got no readings at all off any of the glow plugs , my brother said to take a live off the battery and touch iton the end of each glow plug , if it sparks its good if not then shot .
Not one of them sparked , which would explain recent poor starting !

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did you test them out of the car..??

I've seldom found one that doesn't glow..??:bang:

Readings how? Checking for sparks is an archaic method and meaningless.

andydiver said:

Readings how? Checking for sparks is an archaic method and meaningless.

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RichFiorino....??

Using the argonaut method..with a meter...
Probably...

Ive chaged around 30 over the years.. only a couple have failed to go 'cherry' when coupled direct to a battery.

Hence my suggestion of checking \ cleaning the connections before attempting a plug swap.

Charlie . Oxford