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Hi everyone, glad to find this forum, just bought a 2010 fiat fiorino van with a full service history and I'm impressed with the little engine, lovely little van.
After having it for a couple of days ,I took it on the motorway only to find out I can't go over 70m/h , as it was a southern electric van , my thought they've must fitted a speed limiter to it.
So my inquiry is is the speed limiter a software alteration or a plugged in box
Any help will be appreciated.
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Welcome , nowadays there is 2 types of speed limiting either through the manufacturers diagnostic route or as some local authority/ utility company's use a limiter set by an aftermarket remap the latter being more difficult to remove
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Hiya Gizzybusy,
Welcome to the wonderful world of the Qubist/Fiorinoist............great little motors. Enjoy.
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Hi
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Remember.....70mph is the speed limit.....lol
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Lol . I was on the 3 lane when I was trying to give way for a bimmer stuck up my ass , I couldn't go pass the little hairdryer on my left, bit scary though when you push the pedal and nothing happens .
I'm loving the van very nippy for a 1.3 , found like a dead spot in up to 2000rpm then it goes like a bullet after. A friend of a friend remaps cars for a living , had a look under the dashboard , recons there is a lot of odd wiring behind the obd plug. Anyway bumped into a southern electricity guy, I've asking him about it, he said all their vans have speed limiters on them. I'll take a snap shot of that spider web and post it here and see what you lads think.
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Lol . I was on the 3 lane when I was trying to give way for a bimmer stuck up my ass , I couldn't go pass the little hairdryer on my left, bit scary though when you push the pedal and nothing happens .
I'm loving the van very nippy for a 1.3 , found like a dead spot in up to 2000rpm then it goes like a bullet after. A friend of a friend remaps cars for a living , had a look under the dashboard , recons there is a lot of odd wiring behind the obd plug. Anyway bumped into a southern electricity guy, I've asking him about it, he said all their vans have speed limiters on them. I'll take a snap shot of that spider web and post it here and see what you lads think.
Hi,
don't know where you are based..

but there is a van-sales place in the south east that can just remove the restriction from the ECU, =@50

this place has done them; http://www.autotrader.co.uk/vans/van...ham-dpp-600814

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Hi,
don't know where you are based..

but there is a van-sales place in the south east that can just remove the restriction from the ECU, =@50

Charlie - Oxford
Thanks varescrazy , I've cheched that one out and I think someone had it removed with them. I'll give them a ring later and find out , plus I'm only about 10 miles away from Bracknell.
Nice one mate.
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no problem,
I got the ad. address form the "speed limiter" thread..several had used them..,

TBH for @50 I'd consider just doing a proxy alignment and see what occurs,

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Hi, glad you like it, we love ours. Quite likely the speed limit has been set in the Ecu and anyone with multiecuscan or equivalent can set or remove it. See screen shot of mine connected to our 1.3 Qubo so dont go spending much time or money till you or someone you trust has a look.
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very useful thanks,
i'll add that to the speed limiter thread.
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great stuff, just need a cable from fleebay, which one ?? , And MES download link ?. I guess I'll have a go myself with your guidance guys of course. Plus it will be useful in future ( changing oil and other stuff).
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Google Multiecuscan and you will find them and a link to download. I assume you will to pay for a licence to make this kind of change, certainly you do for services. I have saved a lot by doing my own services but more in peace of mind when the odd fault shows up. A good standard USB Elm327 cable will talk to the engine ecu. You need adaptors to connect with things like the dashboard and body computers. https://m.gendan.co.uk/product_FESCBL.html
The link is informative, I forget which one you exactly need when
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great stuff, just need a cable from fleebay, which one ?? , And MES download link ?. I guess I'll have a go myself with your guidance guys of course. Plus it will be useful in future ( changing oil and other stuff).
Cheers for that
Im in south Oxon.if you get over this way..
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Hi fellas ,thank you for all the info , thanks Charlie for the offer , I'm bit busy working over north London. Thank you andydiver for the info about gendan's cables , but I've found similar cables on fleebay for 15 ,
I mean elm cable plus 4 adapter different colors made for fiat ,I take each one serves a different purpose.
And the MES lisence for €50 , and the latest version 3.1 includes speed limiter. So for about 55 its a bargain for other uses, I'll just go for it. I wish they made MES for android tablets, but hey ho, I have a laptop running on vista ,I haven't used for a couple of years since I bought a tablet.
I'll keep you updated when I get all goodies .
All I can say bye bye VW and hello Fiat , I love this little van ,its like a new toy.
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The colouerd cables have different wiring..
so they connect different ECU PINS

MES tells you which coloured cable to use.. very user friendly.

You may still need a VAGCOM KKL LEAD.
AND /OR AN ELM327

The MES SUPPORTED VEHICLE list should help there..
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