Technical michelin agillis -camper or crossclimate

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Technical michelin agillis -camper or crossclimate

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i,ve got the agillis camper on my old van in 16" flavour(and they are MUCH better than van tyres)-are the cross climates suitable as a motorhome tyre?

got them fitted to my transit connect and there simply the best all round wet grip tyres i,ve ever had-
the new van needs 15" replacements for the bald continental ditch finders,has anyone tried the cross climates on a motorhome? big difference in weight there after all:D
 
What are the load ratings of the Cross Climate tyres in the size you require, and the maximum permissible axle weights of your MH? If the former (per pair) are greater than the latter, you have your answer.
 
i have,nt got a clue where to find that info if i,m honest-dont think i,ve seen any max weights for any michelin tyres-better get looking
 
The load index is moulded into the tyre and normally quoted in the tyre specs when you look up the tyre sizes online.

Google "Tyre load index" and you'll find more info plus images of tyre sidewalls showing how to find the load rating and charts that give maximum weights for each load rating as well :)
 
ok i see what you mean- both rated as 109 load index(1030kg) - might need to see if michelin themselves recommend the cross climate-the agillis camper has strenghened sidewalls for specific camper duty-
 
The purpose of the camper tyres is to make the sidewalls less susceptible to deformation if left standing and not moved for any length of time. Because of their construction they run at higher pressures which is OK for a large, heavy MH, but if you have a PVC I suspect they'd make the ride unbearably harsh.

You can achieve the same protection by over-infkating normal van tyres by 10 psi or so if you lay the van up for any length of time.
 
i,ve got the agillis camper on my old van in 16" flavour(and they are MUCH better than van tyres)-are the cross climates suitable as a motorhome tyre?



got them fitted to my transit connect and there simply the best all round wet grip tyres i,ve ever had-

the new van needs 15" replacements for the bald continental ditch finders,has anyone tried the cross climates on a motorhome? big difference in weight there after all:D



Just a note on the cross climate’s I’ve just replaced a pair on the front after pretty much exactly 53 weeks, (1yr 1week)
130,000 miles! Not a Motorhome just a Courier XLWB Ducato van,

Definitely the best tyres ever, out lasted agilis 215/75R16 10ply (116) by 50,000 miles and even just as they were down to the wear indicators, stuck like glue in the wet

If they’re compatible with your Motorhome then get them
 
i know what you mean -when mine were fitted slipped and slid on the way there on a damp day with 2/3rd worn continentals thinking how attrocious the roads were around here,,,,
and drove out on brand new crossclimates with no idea that the roads were even slightly wet -amazing tyres- if they are suitable for the fronts especially i will get them i think.
 
Just a note on the cross climate’s I’ve just replaced a pair on the front after pretty much exactly 53 weeks, (1yr 1week)
130,000 miles! Not a Motorhome just a Courier XLWB Ducato van,
WoW - that is Good.
My X2/50 XLWB 16" wheels came with Michelin Agilis, which I rotated and changed at 10 years / 80,000 miles - they still had 4mm all round but were starting to perish. Replaced them with Hankook Vantra LT. There is less vibration than there was with the factory fitted Michelins - but they may have worn out of balance. Only downside with the Hankook I have noticed is you start off with 9mm tread instead of 11mm on Michelin Agilis. Another quids worth of tread rubber and the Hankooks could be as good as Michelin.
 
WoW - that is Good.
My X2/50 XLWB 16" wheels came with Michelin Agilis, which I rotated and changed at 10 years / 80,000 miles - they still had 4mm all round but were starting to perish. Replaced them with Hankook Vantra LT. There is less vibration than there was with the factory fitted Michelins - but they may have worn out of balance. Only downside with the Hankook I have noticed is you start off with 9mm tread instead of 11mm on Michelin Agilis. Another quids worth of tread rubber and the Hankooks could be as good as Michelin.



Hankook vantras were not nice in winter once 20-30k mileage covered, 50% worn, slid around bends, lasted approx 60k (4-5months)

Just my findings,

Maxxis do a very good A wet grip 10ply all seasons, great wet grip as good as the Michelin’s, haven’t heard anything on longevity so not fair to comment but around £100 less a pair
 
I've got 225/70/15 Cross Climates on my work van and also a set going to go on our camper van .
Brilliant tyres , fantastic in the wet , awsome in the mud ( and I drive a lot in mud and off road )
My van sits at at least it's max 3500 kg load for all it's life so no problem on a camper , wear rate seems very good ....only slight negative is they are a little noisy with a whirring sound as you drive but for me this is more than offset by their off road performance and on road manners .....no more spinning wheels at junctions or uphill starts .
They seem almost too good to be true , I keep looking at them expecting them to wear out all of a sudden .....I'm looking forward to some snow ...
 
The purpose of the camper tyres is to make the sidewalls less susceptible to deformation if left standing and not moved for any length of time. Because of their construction they run at higher pressures which is OK for a large, heavy MH, but if you have a PVC I suspect they'd make the ride unbearably harsh.

You can achieve the same protection by over-infkating normal van tyres by 10 psi or so if you lay the van up for any length of time.
Trouble with that it actually get then blown up that high if they are like the pressures on a family member motorhome 72psi normally if memory serves me right
Be hard to get 10 more in with most compressors
 
Trouble with that it actually get then blown up that high if they are like the pressures on a family member motorhome 72psi normally if memory serves me right
Be hard to get 10 more in with most compressors

Quite a few MH owners use the Ring RAC900 or similar portable compressors that are often advertised on eBay for 4x4 owners.


I have an RAC900. It's light, portable, and will quite happily pump up to 100 psi.
 
a friend has the rac unit, good idea to have proper clips on it rather than a cigarette lighter connection -10-12 minutes pumping a tyre from low pressure and you can barely touch the plug ,its so hot on the cheapie versions-

most petrol garage units top out at 60 psi(4 bar) so you definitely need a way to check and top up 5 and 5.5bar camper tyres
 
eventually went with agillis camper tyres in 225/70/15 flavour-made a booboo though as i was going to leave the rear tyres on for a little while longer to spread the cost a little longer -the fronts were dated 11/2014

while messing around with a sticking rear brake pad today i noted the rears are even older at 6/2012 ,,,,damn should have done those first lol
2 more ordered for next week- expensive game these vans lol:D
 
Depends who you believe.
Tyre Dealers say you should change tyres at 5 years, but then they are in business to sell tyres :rolleyes:
Manufacturers like Continental suggest 10 years.
MOT Testers have different opinions. I got advisories for perished rear tyres, kept them on, and it passed with no advisories the following 2 years.
Seems to be sunlight and distortion under load that perishes the rubber so if they are a couple of years old when you get them they should have been kept in a warehouse where they won't have deteriorated much.
Date codes on tyres seem to me like date codes on packs of supermarket fruit. Its only a Guide. Most fruit is fine long after the date code has expired, but it can be bad before the date code is up.
Just looking at it tells you more about its condition than the date code.
 
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I wrote to Michelin about mine.
They advised that they should be replaced regardless of mileage and remaining tread when by date code they get to 10 years old.
 
Tbh honest all 4 were down to 3 mm or so anyway,,,,in fairness I did,nt notice any deterioratoin of the rubber at all ,,, just wheelspin on damp roads....
So went up a size to 225 aspect and 112 load rating ,,I,be done a1000 miles this week on them and noticeably more sure footed,,, guaranteed to ruin my break away waiting for tyre fitters or tyres if one failed while we are away:D
 
I have a WW2 International Halftrack .......one of the front tyres is 75 years old and still good ;-) .....no MOT though ...
 
My Raleigh bike tyres are still good after 30 years (and they run at about the same pressure as my van tyres) But they have spent nearly all that time in a dark shed. My van tyres spent all their life outside and looked more perished after 10 years.
Hence the date code is only a guide.
 
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