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Old 14-02-2013   #1
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Should I get timing chain replaced on 1.3 Multijet?

I've just got a 2006 Doblo with 1.3 MultiJet engine in it with 51k miles on the clock. I have service history but there are no markers suggesting that the timing chain has been replaced.

Anyway, I've heard bad things about timing chains snapping on these engines so some questions:

1/ What should I be on the lookout for (noise-wise)?

2/ Is it worth replacing it now just to make sure?

3/ How much is this going to cost me? I understand it's a pain to replace.

4/ What is the normal replacement interval for these that FIAT suggest?
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Re: Should I get timing chain replaced on 1.3 Multijet?

No 1 no noises etc warning
No2 it's up to the person that owns the car if u r gonna keep the car could save u money in long rum

No3 should be around 100 to 150 all in from dealer better price than the engine get it done by dealer as the thread on forum by amcfad he is now learnt give it a read
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Re: Should I get timing chain replaced on 1.3 Multijet?

Hi,
it's a cam CHAIN !,
not a belt like on the JTD engines = 150 for a belt

a LOT more 's for a chain,


Cam-chains do not tend to break - however they do make more noise as time goes on,

here's a recent thread about the same engine in the panda's

https://www.fiatforum.com/panda/3179...ot-result.html

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Re: Should I get timing chain replaced on 1.3 Multijet?

The problem on the 1.3 JTD is the tensioners not so much the chain. It's a big and expensive job but as mentioned you normally get the warning noises first.
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Re: Should I get timing chain replaced on 1.3 Multijet?

Ok confirmed the timing chain is knackered and that's what the horrible noise is.

Quote to replace it (chain, tensioner, tool kit, labour + vat) is 437 from Fiat dealer service. Not terrible.

Does that sound about right?
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Re: Should I get timing chain replaced on 1.3 Multijet?

Sounds okay to me. Do they replace the water pump at the same time?
Years ago my Uno had a rattly chain and the replacement cured it. Chains don't last forever, but the beauty of them is they give a warning. When a belt snaps it takes the engine with it.
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Re: Should I get timing chain replaced on 1.3 Multijet?

Water pump got the green light as it was serviced about 10k miles before I got it and it was done then.

+1 for chains. A friend had a belt go on a LR Discovery 200TDi engine. Destroyed it completely. New engine went in (cheapy GMC diesel), which had an electrical failure after about a week. It was repaired, then ended up with a cracked head (flawed casting) after about 300 miles (!!), which was replaced then 300 miles later it got nicked and abandoned. Car was cursed...
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Re: Should I get timing chain replaced on 1.3 Multijet?

If only all engines were 'non-interference' instead of just a few.
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Re: Should I get timing chain replaced on 1.3 Multijet?

Quote Originally Posted by pointyhat View Post
Ok confirmed the timing chain is knackered and that's what the horrible noise is.

Quote to replace it (chain, tensioner, tool kit, labour + vat) is 437 from Fiat dealer service. Not terrible.

Does that sound about right?

Hi,
that's Roughly what WEE SMURF in the panda section payed,
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Re: Should I get timing chain replaced on 1.3 Multijet?

i'm surprised at a timing chain failing at this mileage, i'm led to believe with regular oil changes they are good for 150k plus
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Re: Should I get timing chain replaced on 1.3 Multijet?

Quote Originally Posted by pointyhat View Post
Ok confirmed the timing chain is knackered
How?

Quote Originally Posted by bobian81 View Post
i'm surprised at a timing chain failing at this mileage,
Exactly, if it was broken the engine would be wrecked so the only thing that can happen is the chain stretching. Still say the noise is tensioners worn.

Yes pointyhat, that is a good price.
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Re: Should I get timing chain replaced on 1.3 Multijet?

Mine snapped at 112k. The rattle was very quiet. The breakdown man said he had had 2 others this week. As for 450 from a garage, well my local fiat dealer wanted a 1000 and private wanted 700 ish. Its a problem and i wouldnt by a 1.3 multijet again, but I have got another panda.
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thanks for all the replies.

Garage said it might be the tensioner only but they can't be sure until they've got it out anyway so I said to do the chain as well.
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