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Old 30-05-2008   #16
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Re: Dual Mass Flywheel???

1.9jtd here

mine went out at abt 80000 km

had a new clutch replace @ 33000km after i feedback to the dealer that the clutch was hard.


seems like dualmassflywheel failure are pretty common throught the jtd platform

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Re: Dual Mass Flywheel???

Worrying.

I'm looking to replace my car now that I have seen this thread.

I have to wait a year, so I hope it'll hold, but then I want a small economical petrol something - maybe a 500?
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Re: Dual Mass Flywheel???

Has the 1.3 MJ engine got a duel mass flywheel? and is it turbow charged?
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Re: Dual Mass Flywheel???

it has a turbo with intercooler and the clutch arrangement seems to be the same as for the larger engines
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Perhaps for once I am better off with my petrol Doblo. Certainly those who have had to pay for a new DMF will have wiped out much or all of the fuel economy savings from having the diesel version.
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Re: Dual Mass Flywheel???

Mines a 1.9jtd 03

replacing gearbox from 02 model. flywheel is a normal one. The starter motor needs to be changed as well.
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Re: Dual Mass Flywheel???

Hi everyone, what are the symptoms of the DMF going? we have a 54 1.9jtd dynamic and it has just started to feel not quite as smooth when cruising at a constant speed ( almost feels like its miss firing on one cylinder ), could this be the DMF?
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what are the symptoms of the DMF going?
Hi Andy - I thought it is felt at take-up rather than constant speed.....but don't be surprise if I'm wrong! Any experts out there know the answer?
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Re: Dual Mass Flywheel???

I've heard recently somewhere (can't remember where) that dual mass flywheels can be damaged by doing alot of creeping along in 1st gear in traffic.

does anyone know if this is true?
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hey there. my dads has an 05/55 1.9 doblo, he started experiencing a horrible screechig sound (to my best description) when pulling away and also trouble selecting certain gears, im a mechanic myself so had a look myself, in removing the gearbox and clutch, sure enough found that the duel mass flywheel had totally fallen apart and failed, new flywheel and clutch. job done not a complaint since from the old man
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Was called the the Clutch Centre, perhaps unsuprisingly, on Arnold Lane, Basford, Nottingham. If I can find the telephone number I'll post it up.
Hi, a quick internet search has not found it. Could you please post details?
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Re: Dual Mass Flywheel???

That would be because they're probably not on internet, I'll drive past tonight to see if their still there.

Interestingly seems the dual mass flywheel is becoming common on petrol cars as well as my mates SEAT Leon with a DSG gearbox has had to have one replaced with clutch and horror of horrors my lease BMW 740 has one also, progress!
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Re: Dual Mass Flywheel???

DMF failures are not common!

I've replaced two, but not because the DMF was at fault. One was a failed clutch housing, the other an oil contamination of the clutch surfaces. Replaced the DMF because at the time it looked like we would be keeping the cars for at least 5 years, and while the gearbox was open and a new clutch was being fitted, it seemed like a sensible idea to put one in while we had the chance. 100,000 on the Marea 2.4 with the failed housing! DMF was still in pretty good condition.
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Thanks Notts
2001 non turbo 1.9D at 140000miles.
I had new master cyl under warranty at 25000 and had to pay for new clutch then. Has been driven carefully so hoping DMF is okay. I think 110000 is good going.

My 2002 1.9JTD is now on it's second recon gearbox at 175000 miles with new clutch every time. Driven hard with lots of weight though
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Usually the DMF doesn't cause a clutch failure, but replacing the clutch without the flywheel is a no-no...

A DMF is basically a flywheel made of 3 parts. An inner disc which bolts to the crank; a outer ring which has the teeth for the starter and the friction surface for the clutch plate; and a rubber filler which joins the two taking out small vibrations from standard clutch operation.

How expencive? About 400-450 for the flywheel making a + labour clutch change around 800-1300 depending on how difficult the job is. 1.9JTD should be closer to 800, some of us ex 2.4JTD owners paid the bigger number!
Youve missed out the two rather large springs
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