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Help needed with Fiat Croma engine

Hello there, I am a new owner of 1983 Pinzgauer (an Austrian military truck) from US. Previous owner imported it from Montenegro with a Fiat Croma turbo diesel engine.
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I just got the truck delivered today and found out that the starter motor is missing a bolt (screw). This made the gear not to align properly and had issues starting the truck.

We do not have these engines here and really would like your inputs to identify/resolve issues.

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1. Could you please help identify the engine model/year. I will also try to get some details by looking at any serial numbers available.
2. I tried searching hard and fast for the starter motor bolt, but did not find any.
3. If someone here has a workshop manual or where I could find one, I appreciate it.

Tl;dr: Need help in identifying Fiat Croma engine. Missing Starter bolt.

Appreciate your help.
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Re: Help needed with Fiat Croma engine

Hi and welcome

I guess the truck is 1980's SteyrPuch

That motor will be late 80's too..

MASSIVE market for FIAT bordering the Adriatic.. so an obvious choice of motor back then

Pre internet dates.. the info is harder to find.. but its all out there somewhere

Lancia may well be a good source of info too

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Re: Help needed with Fiat Croma engine

Early Croma 2500cc turbo diesel engine was:
Type 8144.91
Version 154 AF 55 A
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Re: Help needed with Fiat Croma engine

Quote Originally Posted by varesecrazy View Post
Hi and welcome

I guess the truck is 1980's SteyrPuch

That motor will be late 80's too..

MASSIVE market for FIAT bordering the Adriatic.. so an obvious choice of motor back then

Pre internet dates.. the info is harder to find.. but its all out there somewhere

Lancia may well be a good source of info too

Charlie
Thank you for the reply, Charlie.
Would Lancia Thema be the comparable model to look for?
Looking at the future in repairs, could you comment on the reliability of these engines?
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Re: Help needed with Fiat Croma engine

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Early Croma 2500cc turbo diesel engine was:
Type 8144.91
Version 154 AF 55 A
Thanks for the quick reply. I will look into some info on the engine itself.
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Re: Help needed with Fiat Croma engine

Manufactured by sofim , model number 8144.91
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Re: Help needed with Fiat Croma engine

Looking on ePER at Croma 2500 Turbo Diesel 1990 - 1996

Bolt is P/N: 16044524 - length is 65mm - 3 off required/use
Plain washer P/N: 10519621 - 3 off
Lock washer P/N: 10516674 - 3 off

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FIAT - NM CINQUECENTO (1992-1998)
FIAT - PC COUPE' (1994-1996)
FIAT - PX COUPE' GAMMA'96 (1996-2000)
FIAT - NQ CROMA IE. 2500 V6 (1993-1996)
FIAT - MJ CROMA TURBO DS FL.90 (1990-1996)
FIAT - XP ELBA CSL (1991-1996)
FIAT - 4C GRANDE PUNTO (2008-2009)
FIAT - 2S IDEA (2003-2008)
FIAT - 4D IDEA (2008-2012)
FIAT - 3M LINEA (2007-....)
FIAT - PT MAREA BENZINA (1996-1999)
FIAT - 1Q MAREA BZ GAMMA'99 (1999-2002)
FIAT - PU MAREA DIESEL (1996-1999)
FIAT - 1R MAREA DS GAMMA'99 (1999-2002)
FIAT - XR MILLE (1994-1995)
FIAT - 1F MULTIPLA (1998-2010)
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FIAT - 3Y NUOVA BRAVO MY 2010 (2010-2014)
FIAT - 2H PALIO 2V EXTRA EUROPA REST. 2002 (2002-2011)
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FIAT - 2K PALIO WE EXTRA EUROPA REST. 2002 (2002-2008)
FIAT - PY PALIO/WEEKEND EUROPA (1997-2002)
FIAT - 1S PANDA 4X2 MAQ 91 (1991-2003)
FIAT - 1T PANDA 4X4 MAQ 91 (1991-2003)
FIAT - 2P PANDA DS (1986-1993)
FIAT - NV PUNTO 55-60-75-90 (1993-1997)
FIAT - 1N PUNTO BZ (1999-2003)
FIAT - 1A PUNTO BZ. GAMMA '97 (1997-1999)
FIAT - PF PUNTO CABRIO (1994-1997)
FIAT - 1P PUNTO DS (1999-2003)
FIAT - 3J PUNTO EVO (2009-2011)
FIAT - 2U PUNTO FL.'03 (2003-2010)
FIAT - NW PUNTO GT (1993-1997)
FIAT - 2L SIENA EXTRA EUROPA REST.(2002-2012)
FIAT - 2C STILO BZ/DS (2001-2003)
FIAT - 2V STILO F.L.L. 2003 (2003-2007)
FIAT - MW TEMPRA 1750-2000 (1989-1993)
FIAT - NG TIPO 1750-2000 (1990-1993)
FIAT - MP TIPO SPORT 16V IE. (1988-1993)
FIAT - MU UNO DIESEL R/89 (1989-1995)
ALFA ROMEO - R3 "R.Z." (1992-1993)
ALFA ROMEO - M9 "S.Z." (1989-1991)
ALFA ROMEO - T5 145 GAMMA 97 (1997-1999)
ALFA ROMEO - W3 145 M.Y. '99 (1999-2000)
ALFA ROMEO - T6 146 GAMMA 97 (1997-1999)
ALFA ROMEO - W4 146 M.Y. '99 (1999-2000)
ALFA ROMEO - W8 147 BZ/DS (2000-2010)
ALFA ROMEO - U5 155 ASPIRATO (1992-1996)
ALFA ROMEO - T3 155 GAMMA 96 BZ (1996-1997)
ALFA ROMEO - T4 155 GAMMA 96 DS (1996-1997)
ALFA ROMEO - U6 155 TURBO BZ-DS (1992-1996)
ALFA ROMEO - T7 156 BENZINA (1997-2002)
ALFA ROMEO - X1 156 M.Y.2002 BZ/DS (2001-2005)
ALFA ROMEO - T8 156 TD.ID. (1997-2002)
ALFA ROMEO - X8 159 MY11 (2010-2011)
ALFA ROMEO - K0 164 (1987-1992)
ALFA ROMEO - W1 164 FL/92 (1992-1997)
ALFA ROMEO - W2 164 SUPER (1992-1997)
ALFA ROMEO - K2 164 TURBO BZ.(1987-1992)
ALFA ROMEO - N0 164 U.S.A. MY.91/93 (1990-1992)
ALFA ROMEO - R4 164 USA MY.94-95 (1993-1995)
ALFA ROMEO - W9 166 BZ-DS (1998-2007)
ALFA ROMEO - W5 33 CARB./DS (1990-1994)
ALFA ROMEO - W7 33 ED.88(1988-1990)
ALFA ROMEO - U3 75 BZ 4 CILINDRI (1988-1992)
ALFA ROMEO - U4 75 BZ 6 CILINDRI E TD (1988-1992)
ALFA ROMEO - X9 ALFA 159 (2008-2010)
ALFA ROMEO - X6 ALFA MITO (2008-2011)
ALFA ROMEO - 12 BRERA COUPE' M.Y. (2008-2010)
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ALFA ROMEO - U7 NUOVO SPIDER (1995-1998)
ALFA ROMEO - 13 NUOVO SPIDER M.Y. (2008-2010)
ALFA ROMEO - U9 SPIDER '98 (1998-2006)
LANCIA - SL DEDRA FL.94 1580-1750 8/16V 2000 (1994-1999)
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LANCIA - TB DELTA R.86 BZ/DS (1986-1992)
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FIAT PROFESSIONAL - 2N FIORINO RL (1993-2000)
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