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Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: Cambridge
Posts: 4,268 Thanks: 430 Trader Rating: 0 ![]() | Re: Power steering failure - currently broken down Connector A is the power one that gives trouble. HTH, Robert G8RPI.
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Posts: 16 Thanks: 0 Trader Rating: 0 ![]() | Re: Power steering failure - currently broken down The photo I attached is of the removed pump. There are four cables connected to it, one power and three control. Attachment 196130 Connector A is the power one that gives trouble. HTH, Robert G8RPI. Best, Kam
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Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Near the M4
Posts: 26,654 Thanks: 1029 Trader Rating: 0 ![]() | Re: Power steering failure - currently broken down Looking at the image covering the 4 x connectors. It appears the correct profile..and just using 2-core cable. Have you located the cable on your car yet? @Kam05
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Posts: 16 Thanks: 0 Trader Rating: 0 ![]() | Re: Power steering failure - currently broken down Looking at the image covering the 4 x connectors. It appears the correct profile..and just using 2-core cable. Have you located the cable on your car yet? @Kam05
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Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Near the M4
Posts: 26,654 Thanks: 1029 Trader Rating: 0 ![]() | Re: Power steering failure - currently broken down I suspect if you unplug your own cable.. any damage may be quite obvious. What happened yesterday? Low speed manouvering.. or failed at speed?
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Posts: 16 Thanks: 0 Trader Rating: 0 ![]() | Re: Power steering failure - currently broken down I have a feeling it's about the connector, no? p.s I honestly don't know how to unplug the cable as it seems quite unreachable even after removing the cover p.s.2 sorry for the amateur questions, as you can already imagine I am not really good with cars.
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Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: Cambridge
Posts: 4,268 Thanks: 430 Trader Rating: 0 ![]() | Re: Power steering failure - currently broken down I was not using the car for a day or two, and yesterday I drew it around 4-5 miles and after two hours of parking when I started the car the steering light appeared on the dashboard. Just now I removed the engine cover and shook the connectors a bit and it works again. I have a feeling it's about the connector, no? p.s I honestly don't know how to unplug the cable as it seems quite unreachable even after removing the cover p.s.2 sorry for the amateur questions, as you can already imagine I am not really good with cars. If moving the loom "fixed" it for a while it is almost certainly the connector issue/ If you have the new lead and connector then the first thing is to fit it. It's a known problem and even if fitting a replacement pump I'd recommend fitting a new connector to prevent future problems so there is no downside to tying it first. Leaving it with a bad connector will eventually damage the pump as well due to heat transfer and electrical transients caused by arcing. Best way to access the connector is from underneath the car, but use propper axle stands or ramps, don't rely on the wheel chaging jack when working under the car. Robert G8RPI.
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Posts: 16 Thanks: 0 Trader Rating: 0 ![]() | Re: Power steering failure - currently broken down Hi, If moving the loom "fixed" it for a while it is almost certainly the connector issue/ If you have the new lead and connector then the first thing is to fit it. It's a known problem and even if fitting a replacement pump I'd recommend fitting a new connector to prevent future problems so there is no downside to tying it first. Leaving it with a bad connector will eventually damage the pump as well due to heat transfer and electrical transients caused by arcing. Best way to access the connector is from underneath the car, but use propper axle stands or ramps, don't rely on the wheel chaging jack when working under the car. Robert G8RPI. You are right. I will go ahead and order the connector. Just to double check: is it the right connector? https://errebishop.com/it/cablaggi-a...elettrica.html
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Posts: 4,268 Thanks: 430 Trader Rating: 0 ![]() | Re: Power steering failure - currently broken down Hi Robert, You are right. I will go ahead and order the connector. Just to double check: is it the right connector? https://errebishop.com/it/cablaggi-a...elettrica.html ![]()
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Posts: 16 Thanks: 0 Trader Rating: 0 ![]() | Re: Power steering failure - currently broken down Hi Kam05 The power steering draws a huge amount of current and the connector is not very good. One check is that if you unplug the connector there might be marks around the pin or socket. The vectra cable I got second hand from a car breaker was far superior and even had a rubber cover built in to protect the connection. The other cheap thing to check is your battery. As the pump draws so much current a few people have found that the power steering going hard at slow speeds and full lock is the first sign that their battery is on the way out. Let us know how you get on or if you need any more advice. The vectra one you got was the like one on the photo? I found one pretty cheap (around 20 €) but not sure if it would fit or not. Do you perhaps remember part code? was it 13111603? Thanks,
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Posts: 662 Thanks: 27 Trader Rating: 0 ![]() | Re: Power steering failure - currently broken down Hi Kam05, looks like the correct one. The Vectra one I got had a rubber cover to go over the connection.
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Posts: 16 Thanks: 0 Trader Rating: 0 ![]() | Re: Power steering failure - currently broken down UPDATE: so I ended up buying the fiat cable from Italy which arrived within two days. But, I did not change it until two days ago when the steering wheel became stiff again. I got my neighbor to fix it and it now works fine. The only thing is he kept the old wire in place and only disconnected and cut the two out of three heads of the old wire. He connected the new one directly to the alternator, and he told me it is perfectly fine. You think it is safe to keep it this way, provided that he tied the wire to other cables on its way from the alternator to the steering pump. Thanks beforehand
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Posts: 662 Thanks: 27 Trader Rating: 0 ![]() | Re: Power steering failure - currently broken down Hi Kam05 I left my original cable in place, albeit disconnect at both ends and insulated so I think you should be fine.
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