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Springs ain't what they used to be!

Last week, whilst moving cars around on the drive, it happened.

As I moved forward and turned the wheel to the right, I thought I had the F/O/S brake binding, but as I reversed back at approx 0.2mph ge-donk, F/O/S spring goes for a burton - thank God I wasn't negotiating a roundabout etc. Cannot recall any noise or resistance previously

OK - look on the bright side - its an excuse to lower her then.

The FKs that Dave fitted were approx 80 + delivery (bizarrely they are now down to 54 + delivery - did I miss some wild exchange rate flutuation!!), and Apex were around the 100 mark. PIs/SPAX/Ventura 125+. Of course being the highly popular 2.4, no b*gger this side of the channel had any in stock and various suppliers all advised best part of 2-3 weeks "to be on the safe side".

Based on experience with other cars, I wanted to go eibach, but was struggling to find a set under 220 + delivery - and again none in stock.

Whilst googling last Friday, I tracked down MW Motorsport (italo-tuning) based in Dortmund who listed the eibach pro-kit for the 2.4 for 177 euros all-in (approx 146). After a couple of email exchanges, I bit the bullet and ordered last weekend, got an email they had been shipped Tuesday pm with tracking details and they arrived today.

Hopefully can get them fitted next week - will report back and add some pics.
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Re: Springs ain't what they used to be!

It sounds like you were very lucky if you don't have a new tyre on your shopping list. Mine shredded the sidewall of a nearly new tyre - like you, only manoeuvring in a car park.
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Re: Springs ain't what they used to be!

Luck of the draw. My front spring broke while reversing out into the road. Apart from being stranded blocking the road till I could work out what was going on and what tyre damage was done then it all workied out not. Carefully go the car back on the drive with no damage to the tyre.
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Well, been sorted for a week now and really pleased with the ride - which is much firmer without crashing over bumps etc. and the car handles so much better. Some of that no doubt will be that on removal it was found that both front springs were broken! The offside had actually popped over the cup - so was very lucky the latter happened at 0.5 miles an hour reversing level on the drive. Between that and the recovery process the latter resulted in the abs sensor wiring being rogered, so offside hub also ended up being replaced to eat into the wheel refurb funds



I think it looks much better too. The eibachs are only a 25/30mm drop - looking at Daves photos, I think it sits roughly the same as his - but does in my opinion make the 18"s look like they fill the arches properly.

Couple of quick before and afters (tried to get the car in the same position as last summer when the before was taken ).....

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Re: Springs ain't what they used to be!

did you have to get rear camber adjusted after? mine was well out after lowering.
its said they get a bit lower after springs settle

did you get oem hub or gm or after market and did the plug fit back in its holder? i don't know what hub mine has but wire was to short for plug to reach its holder so its rubbed in half on the cv boot, i tried joining with crimp connectors that didn't work, i'm going to try solder before a new hub
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I am planning to get the geometry checked when I get the wheels and tyres sorted which should be soon (I don't use the car regularly during the week), but will bear in mind what you had to have done and get that checked when I do.

The hub fitted was as per this link (although the garage sourced it a little cheaper from elsewhere) http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/FIAT-CROMA...item4ac101a1f1
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The hub fitted was as per this link (although the garage sourced it a little cheaper from elsewhere) http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/FIAT-CROMA...item4ac101a1f1
is the plug back in its original holder on the shock?
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I will investigate and report back on the plug.
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did they have to remove the whole swivel hub (bit bearing hub bolts too) to fit new bearing hub? haynes vectra manual says you have too
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I am hoping to get to the garage this Saturday morning to ask about the plug and will check this out as well.

Been busy with other issues - which (fingers crossed) seem to have been rectified by the magic wand that is a new battery.

I'll post those details up as another thread in case it helps others in future.

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Dave, update for you:

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is the plug back in its original holder on the shock?
Yes.

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did they have to remove the whole swivel hub (bit bearing hub bolts too) to fit new bearing hub? haynes vectra manual says you have too
Had a chat with one of the mechanics at the garage this morning and although it was a few weeks ago now, from memory he is sure they didn't have to remove the whole swivel hub.


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cool i'll give it a go then thanks. all the bolts require angle tightening
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sun is shinning
drive shaft is in the way of bolts cant get socket on, so i've took hub carrier out, took 2 hours to find all my tools 1 hour to remove hub carrier and hub,

coffee brake now,
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all done, took photos for a guide, that's 2 guides i need to do now

wire goes in proper place now too
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Re: Springs ain't what they used to be!

Quote Originally Posted by evo-number-one View Post
I think it looks much better too. The eibachs are only a 25/30mm drop - looking at Daves photos, I think it sits roughly the same as his - but does in my opinion make the 18"s look like they fill the arches properly.
What shock absorbers do you have ?

I'm thinking to buy this kit:

http://www.europerformance.co.uk/pag...?product=49738

My springs are ok, but the shock absorbers are leaking oil and I don't want to wait until the springs break.

What you guys think about it ?


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