Is pulling the suspension apart a short cut?

You could always just remove the alternator. :devil:

it only took 20 minutes get this far, and it was all a sit down job. if this wasnt stuck it would be the easy way. got my son over today so will see if he can do it, might just be because my body is knackered.

if anyone has got elearn and can confirm the cup does separate from the shaft it would be a big help. pic on eper isn't clear one way or the other

Dave:- A Fiat manual I have shows that the Tulip and shaft comes out in one from the diff.
Ive got a 2006 16v multijet and when my alternator went tits up my independent took stuff off the bulkhead so he could get the alternator out from the top . He only charged me for 2 hour labour so it has to be worth trying that instead of all the crap you are being put through!!
PS:- the book also has a spec for the grease inthe "tulip". 140grams of TutelaMRM zero
make sure it is well packed with grease or you will have to put up with the 40mph "wobble";-(

there was hardly any greese in there, so maybe its not all been a waste if time at least it will go back with some in.

thanks

Make sure its Molybdenum grease . Checked the spec and its a semi fluid Mo grease.
Apparently- if you fill it too full the expansion as it "warms up" can lead to the gaiter being pushed off on the tulip side. dont go above 140gms then!!
Pinch your lasses kitchen scales;-)
This nugget of info I have gleaned can also lead to the reason why even after changing the drive shaft to get rid of the "40wobble" it was still there when car was cold but not there when it has warmed up.
This must prove that if you sit by the water long enough your bound to catch summat!!!

Probably too late now have but the horrizontal drive shaft across the back off the the engine is all one piece with the Tulip fixed at the end.

If you remove the bolts that secure the outboard support / bearing hehine the tulip then you can gently extract the driveshaft from the box. What I down't know is if you will lose any gearbox oil when the shaft is removed! ? ? ?

yes you will lose the gearbox oil.I was charged 2 hours labour as well to get the alternator out and in, so it appears whether from top or bottom its a hell of a job.
Unless you go with those who insist it can be removed without taking anything else off,but I just cant see it, not on an 8v anyhow.I'm in East Anglia if you want name of repairer,but I suspect you live miles away Dave.

s130 said:

Probably too late now

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yeah all that sandy's fault i couldnt log into fes mes forum to track you down either as what i thought was my password didn't work and i couldn't request a new one via email as my email server is the same place as fiat forum

leew said:

yes you will lose the gearbox oil.

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i figured i'd lose fluid, am in too minds now, I could stay off the road longer order new fluid and do 2 jobs in one and not have to worry about atf fluid for another 30k miles, or put the shaft back in and remove all the stuff in the way and do it from the top.
i am in East Anglia but ive been sent a new regulator to fit my self now, i know about the man in lowestoft, is that who you use?

looks to me like normal CV grease is Molybdenum grease?


http://www.commaoil.com/productsguide/file/d46bc1fb436ca5d7a259f9e7e089f555

hi Dave.I used a guy based @ the Broadway Eastgate St. Bury St. Eds,but there must be plenty of indie auto electricians around.Its just that it may be that there's more than one component gone in ur alternator.

dave said:

looks to me like normal CV grease is Molybdenum grease?


http://www.commaoil.com/productsguide/file/d46bc1fb436ca5d7a259f9e7e089f555

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Yes it is Moly grease.

Moly is usually a dark grey greese however I gather there is also a new red coloured CV grease, which my local Fiat dealer uses.

Never used the red stuff myself so no have no idea about the differences between them.

only red grease i see there was the one for brake cylinders

How about:

http://www.opieoils.co.uk/p-1039-red-line-cv-2-grease-with-moly.aspx

and

http://www.redlineoil-europe.com/products/product.asp?product=CV-2+Grease_00114

for starters

£20 no wonder ive not seen it, they probably keep it locked up. the black stuff is under a fiver, i'll stick black in

rained all day yesterday so did nothing

was reading haynes for vectra last night and it said fluid only comes out if you remove left drive shaft ( unless its a 1.8 petrol then only the right)

So i put a tray under just to be careful. pulled long shaft out, and no fluid came out, was then loads of room i had to jack the other side of car a bit to take weight off anti roll bar so it went down out of the way, took alternator out, a tiny trickle of fluid came out, i reckon about a table spoon full (15ml). so i put shaft back in,

Sounds like you are making progress Dave. Good news (especially for you!!!)

what do people think of these brushes then? they still make contact.

i sent the brush pics to the man who fixes these all the time and he said they are fine, will last 100k miles easy.

Its back in, no warning lights and 13.98 volts with engine running. :slayer:

I'll put some guides up later

So what did you replace?

diode pack?
regulator?

or just blow "Dave's magic breath" over the alternator?