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Re: Installed a tuner on the 150!

i've bought one of these gadgets for mine.

i've bought it for the extra power and torque to hopefully help when pulling a trailer.
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Slightly off topic but here goes; I've just had a remap by Angel Tuning and my 120 bhp 8v gained 40bhp and 60 lbs/ft. In gear perfomance is much better and economy is supposed to improve also. I will check that over a couple of tankfuls and post results. I won't need to change the car now!
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Re: Installed a tuner on the 150!

well an update on my tuning thing i bought is that yes i have noticed a difference only when i turned the thing up to the max but i've noticed more that it does less mpg.
i have had to fill my car up sooner than normal, i may take the thing out and stick it back on ebay. i'll give it a while longer though just to see how it goes.
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Slightly off topic but here goes; I've just had a remap by Angel Tuning and my 120 bhp 8v gained 40bhp and 60 lbs/ft. In gear perfomance is much better and economy is supposed to improve also. I will check that over a couple of tankfuls and post results. I won't need to change the car now!
sounds interesting, how much was it and where did you go to get it done
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Re: Installed a tuner on the 150!

I'm in Ireland but angeltuning.co.uk are available all over the uk.It cost me 350 euro and the guy came to my house. I had three cars for him to map so it was worth his while coming from Northern Ireland. PM if you need any more info.

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Update on fuel consumption after remap;;; around town and short journeys 45.1 mpg. Long distance 70 to 80mph 51.4 mpg In both cases an improvement of 6 mpg. Hope this helps.
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Update on fuel consumption after remap;;; around town and short journeys 45.1 mpg. Long distance 70 to 80mph 51.4 mpg In both cases an improvement of 6 mpg. Hope this helps.
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Is this calculated from the pump input, rather than the on board computer averages?
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I have only the onboard computer to go on as I did not do a brim to brim check before the remap. Not the best, I know, but the figures have remained consistently better since upgrade.Hope this helps.
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Most remaps alter the fuel pulses and make the OBC mpg figures about 10% to 15% too high, where the original fuel pulses usually measure within about 2%. Brim to brim is the only valid measure, some people check the actual mileage by GPS.
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Ok then, Brim to brim it is. Give me a week or so and I will post results.
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cjlar, Hope I am unneccessarily pessimistic. I am considering an economy remap on mine, but am not really doing enough miles now to justify it. (old age)
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Re: Installed a tuner on the 150!

THer have been some questions about why FIAT cap the output of this engine to 150BHP (especially when the same unit in the Cadillac BLS pumps out 180bhp). I looked into this as I was considering having mine chipped to 180 bhp but was advised strongly not to do it by a man in the know.

AS DoIDon'tI suggests, it is down to the transmission folks; it isn't designed to take anymore, especially the manuals - it seems the torque converter protects the autos from the worst of any power hike. As it is some people have had problems with CV joints failing prematurely in standard trim.
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Re: Installed a tuner on the 150!

Well on the CV joint issue, me having been all through this as posted elsewhere, it would seem that the inner CV joints are naturally slack. given the design, a tripod assembly then I'm now fairly convinced that they (inner joints) will just get sloppier over time but will hopefully not outright fail and leave one with no drive. Famous last words.

As for the GM manual box I'm non the wiser. Has always been a little notchy/tight when cold but otherwise smooth under drive. However the power/over-run/power knock and 'clacking' sound is a real mystery other than supposedly being normal for this box.

I tow a caravan up into the Italian Dolomites every year so with 3K mile round trips for 3 years I do put the old Croma drivetrain under some duress.

I suppose the a modest lift in BHP and Torque would be tolerated by the Croma.

I'm also led to believe that it is the same gearbox fitted into the later Puntos (I'm assuming the 1.9 diesels and possibly the larger petrol models). Punto drivers seem to 'boost' their cars so there may be some relevant experience there as well.
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Re: Installed a tuner on the 150!

All, Ok after a couple months with the tuner I have been able to obtain a average of about 410 miles on a full tank of fuel. I had not done a good check before installing the tuner.

To the main reason for the post. I was merging onto the motorway a week ago and when I accelerated hard in 3rd gear I noticed what sounded and felt like clutch slip. I let off a little and it went away. On my way home from work I tried a little test. From about 30-35 mph i floored it in third gear and again experienced what seemed to be clutch slip. So needless to say as soon as i noticed it for sure again I let off. Anyhow, I noticed through regular driving since then that when i accelerate hard it still seem to clutch slip some but it only seems to last maybe 1 or 2 seconds and then stops. As in whe i floor it the tach will jump up maybe 200 rpms for a second or two and then drop back down. So the question is...is it really clutch slip or is it a ECU thing? The other day I tired the old saleman clutch test in the driveway. Basically put the car in 4th sitting still and let the clutch out fairly slow. Essentially the car should try to move and the motor should bog. If it doesnt then the clutch is slipping. My car responded properly which again leads me to question if the clutch is actually slipping or is the ECU causing it. Last night I filled up the tank(got 416 miles on the last tank) and this morning I removed the programmer from the car. I will try the acceleration test again over the next few days and see what happens. I will post up what i find. Note the car has just pasted 50K miles on the clock.
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When I accelerate hard it still seem to clutch slip some but it only seems to last maybe 1 or 2 seconds and then stops. As in when I floor it the tach will jump up maybe 200 rpms for a second or two and then drop back down. So the question is...is it really clutch slip or is it a ECU thing?
With a manual gearbox car, revs rising without a corresponding increase in road speed = clutch slip. The ECU (or anything else for that matter) can't do this, it's a straight mechanical drive.

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