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new guy engine problems

hey guys, i bought a 0.9l cinq in feb, i havent yet passed my test but i was offered it for 300 so i couldnt say no lol. the thing is, i have a few probs which i hope u guys can help me with.
1. if u have the car so it is relitively warm and switch it off, it doesnt want to start up again at all, i am no mechanic by no means so i dont know what could be causing this problem?
2. i seem to have oil leaking from the sump (i think) and i think its the washer, i dont want to change the oil yet so i canot take the washer out to see what size and type of washer it is, any ideas on either of these questions?

any help appreciated
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Re: new guy engine problems

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2. i seem to have oil leaking from the sump (i think) and i think its the washer, i dont want to change the oil yet so i canot take the washer out to see what size and type of washer it is, any ideas on either of these questions?
Theres no washer on the sump plug.

The plug itself is a 12mm hex key drive (I recommend a bloody big bar to drive with). Thats the sealing part, if theres stuff between the threads it may cause it to leak, else its likely the sump gasket has gone
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Re: new guy engine problems

if its the sump gasket, is that expensive to replace/repair?
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Re: new guy engine problems

DIY'able and cheap, but a pain to do.

You'll need a new gasket or sealant, new oil, may as well do the filter as well.

There are lots of bolts that need to be done in the correct order/torque.

Not sure how much a garage will charge, but doing the above, I think parts would be 30-60. 1 hours labour? 50?

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Re: new guy engine problems

I'd be worried that some chump has buggered up the sump drain bolt or the thread. Warm the engine up, drain the oil, put the bolt in your pocket and take it along to a Fiat dealer. They are very cheap. As the bolt (if it is the right bolt) is brass, chances are the thread in the sump is OK.

See if you can pick up a Haynes manual.
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Re: new guy engine problems

cheers for te help so far guys, just wondering though, as this is my first car and im only gonna have it for like a year tops
1. is it absolutely necessarily to repair this as im on a tight budget and dont wanna spend loads on this car, (i want a sporting next).

2. do u guys have any ideas about my starting problems, i want to get this fixed as i think it is quite dangerous not being able to start the car up if i stall it or pop into a shop?

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Re: new guy engine problems

You are going to have to do a wee bit of investigation to get to the bottom of the starting problem.

Get the car warmed up and switch it off. Try restarting. If it doesn't. keep trying for a about a minute, then take a spark plug out. Any one will do, pick the easiest to get at.

If the plug is wet with fuel, then its an ignition problem. If its dry, then its probably a fuel problem.

Report back with your findings.

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yh, i read about doing that somewhere else on here, but why does it start up fine from cold and mildly warm and not when it it warm-hot(ish)?
my car is at my nans at the mo in her garage so i cant get over there for a while wot with college and stuff, will try my hardest tho'
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Re: new guy engine problems

Itb could be a dry joint in an electrical connection, it could be oil getting on the crank sensor, it could be many things.

One question.

It starts fine when cold, does it run fine when warm?

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yh, runs sweet as a nut
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cheers for te help so far guys, just wondering though, as this is my first car and im only gonna have it for like a year tops
1. is it absolutely necessarily to repair this as im on a tight budget and dont wanna spend loads on this car, (i want a sporting next).
Pretty much. Leaks only get worse. If it suddenly gets worse, the engine will be wrecked before you can do anything to prevent it. Expensive -- or scrap car.

If you can clean off the block and sump before you run the engine next you'll be able to tell better where the oil is leaking from. But the nut will cost maybe 3 and the gasket less than 10. (The 899 uses a gasket, apparently.)
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yh, runs sweet as a nut
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OK, that rules out an O2 sensor problem.

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Re: new guy engine problems

ok tanks for the help so far guys, much appreciated.
the next time ill be able to work on my car is sunday so i will clean off the sump then.
all extra help will be highly appreciated
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