Technical Seicento 1.4 16v Project

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Technical Seicento 1.4 16v Project

its looking very good em :) on the exhaust though some parts look stainless others look mild is it just my eyes?

dont forget to get a vid of the startup :)

wayne

The flexi is s/s, and the rear bend to polished tail pipe is s/s and the joiners at the box's are s/s the rest is galvanised steel. Same stuff was used on the MG Maestro 16V conversion and that lasted 6years so think can be safe to say it will last as long as Emma has the car.

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That exhaust looks like it belongs on a limo seems much longer than a sei!

Exhaust's always look huge when off a car, i collected a full 3" s/s system for my integrale and only just managed to get it in the back of a the above mentioned MG, it was just as well i didn't take the Cinq.

Oh and before anyone askes, the exhaust wrap is intentional to be short of the top, the primary purpose is to keep heat away from the rad without stoping the flow of air through the rad and we didn't want to experience the heat transfere often associated with exhaust wrap back into the head, so there is theory to it, honest!
 
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Dude what the wrap on the manifold. I know of a punto with a ss manifold that cracked due to getting too hot with the wrap.
 
Dude what the wrap on the manifold. I know of a punto with a ss manifold that cracked due to getting too hot with the wrap.

It should be fine, TBH its cheap enough to replace the manifold if anything goes wrong or even repair it as we have welding equipment, but going on fact that i have a s/s manifold on my integrale which with it being turbo runs about 2-300degrees hoter than a N/A car we forsee no problems, but as with any project like this, we are prepared to modify or change things until we get the right mix.

It is due to the fact we have heard of them getting hot and cracking that we have restriced the wrap to an area that is in air flow, but in close proximity to the rad, and not wrapped right up to the head, the hottest bit, to prevent heat saok back into the head, thats the theory so we will see how it goes. :)

Aaron.
 
i was gonna ask why it wasnt wrapped right back to the head.. that's why. hmm mine is. we'll see what happens.

did that dial cover jobby turn up?

Yeah it did mate, thanks for that, will need to get dials fitted now, they are trial fitted so need to get them done properly, buying houses and spending time looking at fridges and stuff is eating into my time lol
 
lagging prevents you cracking your na/turbo manifold when you splash thru a puddle!!!!

managed to crack the saabs manifold (impressive crack from turbohousing seating past cyl's 4-2, only cyl 1 has not got a crack on the end of its manifold (its like a 4-1 square thing, but round inside). car wasn't even hot, just drive from one end of the village to the other, maybe 0.5miles??)

if it was lagg'd it wouldn't have happened:bang:

needless to say, new manifold is lagg'd and there is a makeshift waterspray deflector infront of it:rolleyes:
 
OK, the time has come. The Seicento 1.4 16V runs. At present it runs on a base map meant for a 1.4 16V K series which means its very rich at present, so rev limited to 4500rpm until it goes to rolling road on Monday for a full mapping session.

We got excited and took it for a short trail run and Emma took some shorts vids on the mobile phone so excuse the quality, still gives you a good idea of how it sounds.

First impressions, even on limited revs it feels very eager and much quicker than it was, the 6 speed gear change feels very nice, they are close together in terms of selecting the gears which is good though will
get a bit of getting used to compared to the older 5 speed which seemed like there was too much space between gears as the Seicento is not blessed with the slickest gear stick set up every, but vast improvement over standard.

https://www.fiatforum.com/gallery/data/500/Seicento_trial.3gp
https://www.fiatforum.com/gallery/data/500/Seicento_trail2.3gp

Aaron.
 
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Car is being mapped tomorrow afternoon, I will not be there to see it as working but Emma and her dad will be.

It was our choice to go to an after market ECU because it is in terms of how mappable it is, and the control functions it has better than a standard ECU mapped which is never going to be that great, it will work but its a compromise, this way there are no compromises.
 
Looks very impressive, though whether that was your driving or the car remains to be seen! (I showed it to a policeman -- don't worry, it was my neice's husband, the guy with the 7 Series BMW of "Imola Blue Ooops!" fame -- and he was impressed, too).

Emma looks as though she's rattling around a bit (perhaps just laughing too much?), so maybe you need to look at the seats. ;)

Great job, gang, great job. Interested to hear Emma on how it compares to the Cinq turbo.

Supercharge it! :yum:
 
Looks very impressive, though whether that was your driving or the car remains to be seen! (I showed it to a policeman -- don't worry, it was my neice's husband, the guy with the 7 Series BMW of "Imola Blue Ooops!" fame -- and he was impressed, too).

Emma looks as though she's rattling around a bit (perhaps just laughing too much?), so maybe you need to look at the seats. ;)

Great job, gang, great job. Interested to hear Emma on how it compares to the Cinq turbo.

Supercharge it! :yum:

Yeah it looks good in the vid, and thats short shifting up at 4000rpm and reading reviews of this engine in the Panda 100hp it doesn't come on song until 5000rpm and makes its peak power 99bhp@6000rpm, peak torque 97lb ft@4250rpm so shows potential.

Its on rolling road as I write this, I am unfortunately 100's of miles away in Cheltenham so can't watch what's happening and thats rather frustrating.

Yes she was laughing a fair bit while trying to hold mobile phone still, which on a bumpy country road is not that easy.

Supercharged, Mmmm interesting, but point of this project was to retain as near to standard engine to retain as good reliability as a standard car, but have enough power and low down torque and good fuel economy that a big engine in small car to makes, without overwhelming the chassis.

Now the Ignis, Rotrex supercharger you say, 180+bhp you say, now thats what they are doing in Asia, wonder if its time to do one here lol

Or maybe I should just fit all the stuff I have for my integrale and also concentrate on fact that we've spent a whole load of money on a house thats being built and will therefore have next to nothing in it.
 
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