Register Login
Shop4Parts - UK's largest online superstore for FIAT and Alfa Romeo parts
Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 31-01-2016   #16
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Eastbourne
Posts: 79
Thanks: 2
Trader Rating: 0
United Kingdom 
Re: Sprint & Hillclimb spec Cinquecento

Quote Originally Posted by cartledge_uk View Post
Sorry I just caught up on the thread, and you say above mod prod.

Very nice build!

Have you got a supplier for the fibreglass panels? If you started making some you could make a bit of profit i'm sure!
I have found a supplier of fibreglass panels in Italy via one of the Facebook Cinquecento groups, he does bonnets, front wings,doors and hatches. This will be something to look into at the end of this year as with the start of the season looming I've got other more important things that need buying (crash helmet, HANS device, race suit & gloves).
__________________
Any engine will fit in any car as long as you have the brains and the money........if you don't have the brains it'll cost a lot lot more.
biggelmo is offline Reply With Quote Quote 
Old 31-01-2016   #17
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Eastbourne
Posts: 79
Thanks: 2
Trader Rating: 0
United Kingdom 
Re: Sprint & Hillclimb spec Cinquecento

A few more pics....
The original green hose sections that I used to join the carbs to the manifold were found to be braking up inside so have been replaced with "faster" red ones.
I've fitted a new 6 point HANS compatible harness.
Finally got the car out in the sunlight.
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	IMAG2316.jpg
Views:	54
Size:	723.5 KB
ID:	164000   Click image for larger version

Name:	IMAG2314.jpg
Views:	78
Size:	1.26 MB
ID:	164001  

Click image for larger version

Name:	IMAG2317.jpg
Views:	63
Size:	1.13 MB
ID:	164002   Click image for larger version

Name:	IMAG2318.jpg
Views:	55
Size:	1.12 MB
ID:	164003  

Click image for larger version

Name:	IMAG2311.jpg
Views:	63
Size:	1.53 MB
ID:	164004  
Likes mike9184, crazySnublz liked this post
__________________
Any engine will fit in any car as long as you have the brains and the money........if you don't have the brains it'll cost a lot lot more.
biggelmo is offline Reply With Quote Quote 
Old 23-02-2016   #18
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Eastbourne
Posts: 79
Thanks: 2
Trader Rating: 0
United Kingdom 
Re: Sprint & Hillclimb spec Cinquecento

Hi all, after a few more mods the Cinq has been back on the dyno and scales again.
The new mods included removing the alternator to run total loss electrics, replacing the standard fuel tank with a custom made 6litre tank and de-cating the exhaust system to run straight down the middle of the car.
The dyno runs showed after a couple of jet changes that we now have 86bhp at just over 7000rpm which was an increase of 10bhp form the last dyno session which was bought to a halt when the throttle cable snapped.
The scales also showed that we have lightened the Cinq by a further 23kg to 665kg.

The dyno graph shows how much of an improvement the bike carbs are compared to the previous P75 throttle body and injector set up, where the Mpi set up was strangling the car at 6000rpm the bike carbs allow the engine to rev on to 7200rpm.
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	Screenshot_2016-02-20-17-37-21.jpg
Views:	64
Size:	176.1 KB
ID:	165049   Click image for larger version

Name:	Screenshot_2016-02-20-17-36-58.jpg
Views:	93
Size:	126.6 KB
ID:	165050  

__________________
Any engine will fit in any car as long as you have the brains and the money........if you don't have the brains it'll cost a lot lot more.

Last edited by biggelmo; 23-02-2016 at 22:35.
biggelmo is offline Reply With Quote Quote 
Old 23-02-2016   #19
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Poole, Dorset
Posts: 1,360
Thanks: 58
Trader Rating: 0
United Kingdom 
Re: Sprint & Hillclimb spec Cinquecento

Nice! You are surely going to upstage some bigger cars!
__________________
purf is offline Reply With Quote Quote 
Old 28-02-2016   #20
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Eastbourne
Posts: 79
Thanks: 2
Trader Rating: 0
United Kingdom 
Re: Sprint & Hillclimb spec Cinquecento

I wish Purf.....but unfortunately the Cinq in its current spec will totally out classed by the class leaders in their Cosworth BDH powered Fiesta's and 16v 1380 Mini's.
__________________
Any engine will fit in any car as long as you have the brains and the money........if you don't have the brains it'll cost a lot lot more.
biggelmo is offline Reply With Quote Quote 
Old 29-02-2016   #21
Join Date: Oct 2014
Posts: 85
Thanks: 1
Trader Rating: 0
United Kingdom 
Re: Sprint & Hillclimb spec Cinquecento

When's your first event? You're fairly local to me and I've been thinking about entering my Sei sporting on a couple of sprints in the road going class, so very interested to see how you get on. With me I'll be totally outclassed as it's too big for the 1000cc category (so will sit with the 1.4's) but should be fun none the less.

I used to run my rally car in the modified 1400 class and it was a tough job! Plenty of highly tuned minis/ MG Sprites with fibreglass panels etc. Not sure if it's part of the series but if you get a chance to do Rushmoor arena at the end of April it's a good event and not a million miles from you.
__________________
FIAT Forum Useful Links:
Donate to FF | Buy FF Merchandise | Classifieds | FF Insurance | How-to Guides

Paul106xsi is offline Reply With Quote Quote 
Old 04-03-2016   #22
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Eastbourne
Posts: 79
Thanks: 2
Trader Rating: 0
United Kingdom 
Re: Sprint & Hillclimb spec Cinquecento

Quote Originally Posted by Paul106xsi View Post
Not sure if it's part of the series but if you get a chance to do Rushmoor arena at the end of April it's a good event and not a million miles from you.
It's now looking like the Rushmoor Arena Sprint on April 24 will be my first event, there is a Sprint at Goodwood on the April 23 but it's not part of the championship that I'm entering.

I've checked out previous Rushmoor Arena Sprints on YouTube and the course looks Ok.

I've also now got the Cinq booked in for its MSA Competion Car Log Book inspection with my local Scrutineer who lives in Hastings, this is organised for March 23.
__________________
Any engine will fit in any car as long as you have the brains and the money........if you don't have the brains it'll cost a lot lot more.
biggelmo is offline Reply With Quote Quote 
Old 12-03-2016   #23
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Northampton
Posts: 1,171
Thanks: 16
Trader Rating: 0
Duncan has donated!
Italy 
Re: Sprint & Hillclimb spec Cinquecento

Quote Originally Posted by biggelmo View Post
I have found a supplier of fibreglass panels in Italy via one of the Facebook Cinquecento groups, he does bonnets, front wings,doors and hatches. This will be something to look into at the end of this year as with the start of the season looming I've got other more important things that need buying (crash helmet, HANS device, race suit & gloves).
You got any links or contact details for the Italian fibreglass maker?
__________________
Proud to be rolling on 13s
Duncan is offline Reply With Quote Quote 
Old 13-03-2016   #24
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Eastbourne
Posts: 79
Thanks: 2
Trader Rating: 0
United Kingdom 
Re: Sprint & Hillclimb spec Cinquecento

Hi Duncan, the only contact details I have is the sellers name which is David Benke, he runs the Trofeo & Co Facebook group so you might be able to contact him through FB.
__________________
Any engine will fit in any car as long as you have the brains and the money........if you don't have the brains it'll cost a lot lot more.
biggelmo is offline Reply With Quote Quote 
Old 15-03-2016   #25
F.I.R.E. power
 
cartledge_uk's Avatar
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Newbury
Posts: 255
Thanks: 4
Trader Rating: 0
cartledge_uk has donated!
United Kingdom 
Re: Sprint & Hillclimb spec Cinquecento

Quote Originally Posted by biggelmo View Post
It's now looking like the Rushmoor Arena Sprint on April 24 will be my first event, there is a Sprint at Goodwood on the April 23 but it's not part of the championship that I'm entering.

I've checked out previous Rushmoor Arena Sprints on YouTube and the course looks Ok.

I've also now got the Cinq booked in for its MSA Competion Car Log Book inspection with my local Scrutineer who lives in Hastings, this is organised for March 23.
Which championship are you in? ACSMC or ASEMC?

Rushmoor is my home event (FDMC member) but i'm not sure i'll be able to make this one
__________________
FIAT Forum Useful Links:
Donate to FF | Buy FF Merchandise | Classifieds | FF Insurance | How-to Guides

cartledge_uk is offline Reply With Quote Quote 
Old 16-03-2016   #26
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Eastbourne
Posts: 79
Thanks: 2
Trader Rating: 0
United Kingdom 
Re: Sprint & Hillclimb spec Cinquecento

I'm running in the Sevenoaks Motor Club speed League.
Seems I won't be the only Cento there as there's a Seicento entered in the production class.
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	1458123429964.jpg
Views:	65
Size:	115.3 KB
ID:	165736  
__________________
Any engine will fit in any car as long as you have the brains and the money........if you don't have the brains it'll cost a lot lot more.
biggelmo is offline Reply With Quote Quote 
Old 07-05-2016   #27
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Eastbourne
Posts: 79
Thanks: 2
Trader Rating: 0
United Kingdom 
Re: Sprint & Hillclimb spec Cinquecento

The first outing in the Sprint & Hillclimb was held a couple of weekends ago at Rushmoor near Aldershot.
It went quite well apart from an annoying misfire which I think was down to the Lucas coil top being cracked, I've now thrown it away and swapped over to a Panda 4x4 electronic distributor and and a Fiat Croma coil (N.O.S. 2 from eBay).
Considering this was the first time out the Cinq handled and stopped quite well and the Avon tyres gripped better than expected from cold.

This video is from the first practice run, lots of wheel spin and some sideways action.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2l...hVUHFpWmM/view

This video is my 5th and fastest run.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2l...9Yb1ZyeGs/view
__________________
Any engine will fit in any car as long as you have the brains and the money........if you don't have the brains it'll cost a lot lot more.
biggelmo is offline Reply With Quote Quote 
Old 07-06-2016   #28
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Eastbourne
Posts: 79
Thanks: 2
Trader Rating: 0
United Kingdom 
Re: Sprint & Hillclimb spec Cinquecento

Lots has happened since my last post.
With a lot of expert help from Jon Wood at JW Developments in Eastbourne we now have a race cam installed, the cam was designed by Jon and then ground from a new blank. Jon also sourced some lightweight cam follower buckets that don't use a separate shim to set the tappet clearances, these were thought to be necessary due to the possibility of the new cam spitting the standard Fiat shims off of the Fiat followers buckets.Uprated single valve springs were also installed.
With the new cam installed with a vernier pulley and the Panda 4x4 distributor (now modified for Mechanical advance only) and with the Croma coil a short dyno run has seen the power increase to 103bhp so that's an increase of 17bhp over the 866 cam setup.

I also took part in the Abingdon Car-nival Sprint on Saturday (04/06) at Dalton Barracks Airfield in Oxfordshire where the new power increase got me two 4th places so things are definitely going in the right direction.
__________________
Any engine will fit in any car as long as you have the brains and the money........if you don't have the brains it'll cost a lot lot more.
biggelmo is offline Reply With Quote Quote 
Old 13-10-2016   #29
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Eastbourne
Posts: 79
Thanks: 2
Trader Rating: 0
United Kingdom 
Here's a quick update......
The season ended on a high with a proper battle for a class 2nd place between my Cinq and an established competitor in a very well set up 1380 MG Midget....i ended up 3rd by just over a second.
This event was at Rushmoor Arena the same venue as my first Sprint this year so I was able to get a direct time comparison, my first practice run in patchy damp conditions was quicker than my fastest time at the previous visit so I was very happy.
Over this winter weve got a lot planned for the car to make it more competitive next year, the list of jobs is quite long so there'll be lots of time in the garage.
We're building a new 1108 based engine and have lots of things planned for it so watch this space.
The RAC MSA class rules allow for some major suspension mods so we'll be exploiting this to the full with a lightweight custom rear beam with tubular trailing arms and turreted coilover shocks to replace the standard Cinq beam setup.
The MSA class rules also allow for some serious body mods to reduce the weight further, we are hoping to get down to 580ish Kg.
__________________
FIAT Forum Useful Links:
Donate to FF | Buy FF Merchandise | Classifieds | FF Insurance | How-to Guides

biggelmo is offline Reply With Quote Quote 
Old 13-10-2016   #30
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Lancaster
Posts: 4,314
Thanks: 93
Trader Rating: 1
United Kingdom 
Re: Sprint & Hillclimb spec Cinquecento

Plans on the engine mods??
You going injection?

Sounds good
__________________
Wanted: Cinq sporting drive shafts
Brooky is offline Reply With Quote Quote 
Reply
Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump
Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
(G) Video of Irish Hillclimb & Sprint Cento's 2012 Kachink Cinquecento / Seicento 2 09-03-2013 07:44
Stunner Scudo Tyres (Hillclimb Sprint) dave Auction Watch 0 02-07-2010 21:35
(Tu) Sprint Boosters & GSR Mr Cousins Stilo 21 03-05-2010 11:21