General Cinq sump & petrol tank guards!

J333EVO · Sep 8, 2005

For all you aspiring rally drivers;

http://www.alpha-composites.co.uk/gallery.asp?catid=23
http://www.alpha-composites.co.uk/gallery.asp?catid=35

Aaron.

jamie86 · Sep 8, 2005

You ordered some?

J333EVO · Sep 8, 2005

jamie86 said:
You ordered some?

No saw them by chance when looking at the carbon/kevlar wings for the integrale.

and no I'm not thinking of buying those either, just good to know someone has them as Lancia do not have any left.

mase · Sep 8, 2005

might have to get the sump guard... gave mine a good spank on a speed bump just the other morning...

J333EVO · Sep 8, 2005

mase said:
might have to get the sump guard... gave mine a good spank on a speed bump just the other morning...

Coudl be worth asking them for a price, AFAIK the evo wings are a god price and good quality.

mase · Sep 8, 2005

tru tru... might protect other things as well, ive even got scrapes on the front wishbone!

jamie86 · Sep 8, 2005

J333EVO said:
No saw them by chance when looking at the carbon/kevlar wings for the integrale.

and no I'm not thinking of buying those either, just good to know someone has them as Lancia do not have any left.

Imagine how much lighter it would be with all panels replaced

rallycinq · Sep 8, 2005

I've got the forest spec kevlar tank guard on mine. Nice piece of kit.

Cheers

D

mase · Sep 8, 2005

rallycinq said:
I've got the forest spec kevlar tank guard on mine. Nice piece of kit.

Cheers

D

how exactly does it fit? and how far below the sump does it hang?

rallycinq · Sep 8, 2005

mase said:
how exactly does it fit? and how far below the sump does it hang?

Uh, its a tank guard, so its no where near the sump I'm afraid. My sump guard is an alloy one I made myself.

Cheers

D

custard · Sep 8, 2005

might get one for mine,been considering replacing the sump as well as it has some nasty scrapes on it.not an urgent job but worth doing at some point

Duncan · Sep 8, 2005

Finally! Definately gotta get a sump guard. Country B roads arent doing my car any favours and Ive not even lowered it yet!

arc · Sep 8, 2005

yeah.. i found this company agggees ago and asked about the sump guard

https://www.fiatforum.com/showthread.php?t=28060

Hi Mark,
thanks for the enquiry. The answer to your question is a yes
and no I'm afraid. We were commisioned to produce the guard itself which we
did and the owner of the Cinq then fabricated its mounting points. We would
be able to do the guard itself but we wouldnt be able to do the mounting
frame, the frame that was maufactured for the road rally car involved
welding a cross brace of angle iron across the front of the car under the
radiator and the strengthening up of two bumper mounts I think.
As for materials, Kevlar is the best material for the job in hand.
It has the best impact and abrasion qualities of the readily available
fibres. Carbon or glass fibre arent suitable for a sump guard and anyone who
tells you otherwise is mistaken. I think the guard itself was £95 if memory
serves as it utilised Epoxy resins and a heat cure which added to the costs.
Hope this is of help.
Ian

If you think though, its a sump guard thats 6mm thick.. its going to bring the point of contact down by 6mm. Not really a bright idea imo.

GeX · Sep 8, 2005

6mm... If a person gets in your car it prolly drops more than 6mm

arc · Sep 8, 2005

maybe so, but i dont tend to drive not in the car - so at the end of the day, it's still an extra 6mm. with no-one in the car, 6mm equates to about 10% of my ground clearance.

cinquecento_sunderland · Sep 8, 2005

that is not really a practcal matrial anyway alloy or stainless is best option as it is stronger that will smah or flex and on a major hit would shatter or cave in, i want one made of adimantium or that alloy the terminator made of

arc · Sep 8, 2005

i asked about the materials:

As for materials, Kevlar is the best material for the job in hand.
It has the best impact and abrasion qualities of the readily available
fibres. Carbon or glass fibre arent suitable for a sump guard and anyone who
tells you otherwise is mistaken.

arseofbox · Sep 8, 2005

Yep...CF and GRP taking a direct impact just causes them to shatter.

Saw my mate's CF clutch guard on his bike after it took a beating against the floor on tuesday.....

Imagine steel puncturing, then imagine bits of CF going everywhere, and thats how it fails!

Liam · Sep 8, 2005

These types of guard have crossed over from predominently off roading and rally motorsports where none of the cars are particularly low.

If anyone's car is scraping on the road and they are concerned then I'd raise it rather than buying a guard.

Liam

arc · Sep 9, 2005

bloomfieldliam said:
If anyone's car is scraping on the road and they are concerned then I'd raise it rather than buying a guard.

*slap*

or look at ways of moving the engine upwards a bit? :chin:

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