Hi all,

I'm after a new pair of bulbs as mine are rubbish, at the moment I've got some Osram Nightbreakers fitted and I'm sure they were far better when I fitted them this time last year.

A HID conversion is on the cards but not any time soon, so bulbs it is...

I just wanted to know what headlight bulbs everyone uses in their centos? Any favourites or some to specifically avoid? Preferably some that aren't too pricey that actually work, white light would be a bonus

Cheers,
Ben

Whatever Eklipze3k has in his sei are miles better than either of my cento's if he can remember what's in there....

BiXenon HID kit



Other pics here https://www.fiatforum.com/members-motors/333885-seicento-sporting-ms-faded-red-5.html

I've had no bother with being flashed either.

The kit was £36 - that's not much more than the price of fancy filaments ( that really don't make enough improvement)

I'd just save a bit and get the HID kit, we sell "uprated" bulbs at work and they are a waste of time. Drove my Cinq tonight and realised it needs a HID kit badly!

My other half's Alfa 145 has an aftermarket HID kit and it looks very O.E.
Good white light and not annoying when it's following you.

At that price a HID kit is VERY tempting.... pay day wednesday.... :chin:

My excuse being I have to drive home every night in the dark I also need something white to match my LED sidelights

Cento186 said:

At that price a HID kit is VERY tempting.... pay day wednesday.... :chin:

My excuse being I have to drive home every night in the dark I also need something white to match my LED sidelights

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Get the 4300k option, whitest light.

Duncan said:

Get the 4300k option, whitest light.

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I was looking at these :yum:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/251358160324?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649&clk_rvr_id=550532455604&clk_rvr_id=550532455604

6000k are they not even whiter? or going towards blue? I just got the link of unclebloodyfester's thread

Just dont get a Cheep hid Kit ,, you can buy Hid kits made for the reflecor units ,, its look for a H4R kit ,, and there ment to be less glary , i put a hid kit in the cinq , in 5 miles i got flashed at by EVERY car ..

I think you'll find that general consensus around here is if you fit HID's without projectors you're a:



And should probably head off to the Max Power or Fast car forums...

Certainly if you ever blinded me I'd be tempted to beat some sense into you with a vanilla magic tree. :devil:

I have them, i can see where i'm going and others can see me coming. Haven't been cut up or pulled out in front of once since fitting them and prior to that it was happening many times per day. Last one was an HGV coming out of a layby who just didn't see me and I ended up almost side swiped by the rear of his tractor unit.



However, since you're on a rock I'd have to question the point of owning a car, much less worrying about being blinded when driving it

Honeymonster ... thats Evil posting a picture of Lecook up with bellNd on it

Nothing sperates opinion more than HID on forums. The MOT rules about self levelling and light washers only apply to cars that were fitted with them from new. They don't apply to aftermarket units - the lights only have to comply with alignment and beam pattern to pass an MOT.

That's the law pure and simple.

What should get far more attention is the number of idiots running around with lights out or badly aligned, these cause far more problems. However when was the last time you saw a traffic copper out and about stopping people for this

I'll be leaving mine fitted until the law tells me otherwise.

Honeymonster said:

If people couldn't see you before I'm guessing you need to replace your headlight units. Cento lights work perfectly well enough when in good condition carrying decent bulbs, however they can be absolute garbage when the reflectors corrode (and they all leak).

Maybe you should should consider buying some new headlight units rather than endangering other road users...

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Now the question is.. what bulbs do I want? As illegal and dangerous cheap HIDs may be I need an alternative...

Both my headlights are about 6 months old and are now no longer pointing at the floor (Thanks @Lecook ) so thats a good start

unclebloodyfester said:

Nothing sperates opinion more than HID on forums. The MOT rules about self levelling and light washers only apply to cars that were fitted with them from new. They don't apply to aftermarket units - the lights only have to comply with alignment and beam pattern to pass an MOT.

That's the law pure and simple.

What should get far more attention is the number of idiots running around with lights out or badly aligned, these cause far more problems. However when was the last time you saw a traffic copper out and about stopping people for this

I'll be leaving mine fitted until the law tells me otherwise.

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You're misunderstanding. :bang:

HID's are a completely different light source not designed to work with a reflector.

Read this:

http://store.candlepower.com/trabhidki.html


and if you still don't understand I give up. And yes you are breaking the law...

*sighs*

I'm well aware of how they work thank you. What i know is that HID in my reflector based lights work far better than halogen do. The light isn't being projected and the HID units come with a cap and shield to prevent the light being thrown directly forwards.

http://www.partinfo.co.uk/files/MOT%20Changes%20-%20Lighting.pdf

And yet, despite the DoT regulation 'consideration' the garages that I go to don't bother to test anything but the beam pattern and alignment. I took the car for an alignment and beam pattern check at my local garage, guess what, it passed.

http://www.kwecars.com/news-press-media/news/HID-MoT.php

Much the same as they don't bother to test my other car for the presence of a working catalytic converter. Apparently, the lack of that means dead polar bears and ruined forests the world over but you don't see car nerds banging on about that

As far as the MOT goes, it's a 'fit for purpose' on the day test only and anyone that wants to can simply refit their old halogen units for the test and swap back to HID after they leave. If there is no police regulation due to budgets and manpower decreases then the 'law' is unenforceable.

Why not spend your time banging on about illegal tyre fitments / misaligned lights, failed bulbs and drink driving - it would fall on more receptive ears.

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Why not spend your time banging on about illegal tyre fitments / misaligned lights, failed bulbs and drink driving - it would fall on more receptive ears.

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because they don't blind me as they come passed...

I don't really care about the legal aspect, just more why it's justified.

Cheap Chinese HID kits fitted in head lights designed for Halogen bulbs are **** end of.

A lot of time and effort goes in to engineering headlights, they are engineered around the bulbs they are designed to use.

Some how you think some back garden HID kit works better in a light designed for a Halogen...

HID light = HID bulb

Halogen light = Halogen bulb

Halogen light + HID bulb = :tosser:

An that's my opinion on the subject.

If you can get a letter from any car manufacturer stating it's acceptable to uses HID's in their reflectors I'll reconsider my case, however quite simply you won't...

I'm done here.

Good - you have your opinion and you're entitled to it - the fact remains that halogen + Seicento headlight on murky nights and dark mornings = dangerously dim.

If you think FIAT spent much time / money designing the optics on these units then your opinion is as misguided as your grammar.

I'm also done.

Well in my experience the sei lights are not as good as a brand new car but then they are not a brand new car. Never had an issue myself not being able to see or not being seen with normal halogens. I would suspect this truck didn't see you cause he didn't look properly more than the lights aren't bright enough, he should have seen you even if you just had side lights on if he was actually looking properly.

Well the ones on my Sei are pretty good with normal E approved halogen bulbs.

You may need to dismantle and clean yours my fogs were so ineffective I took them off as I could not clean them internally and the clean dipped beams just cut through fog.

Note I have told the broker.

Quite apart from dazzling people some of whom may react in kind with main beam and driving lamps - if you just swap bulbs and if you get stopped and they detect lots of delinquency they will tot up the points.

It is easy to detect non E headlights.

Im seeing more people stopped than ever before.

If your head lamps are dangerously dim either drive slower or fix them proper.