Styling Lowering Springs

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Styling Lowering Springs

Dunno, Apex are a very good make. I don't know why the S/SX and Sporting springs are different prices I thought they were exactly the same spring, just lowered the two cars different amounts due the difference between the 2 models from standard. :confused:
 
Apex kit is pretty damn good. I don't like the idea of anyone using lowering springs on standard shocks though! Seems stupid to me. From a performance viewpoint
 
it isnt as good that is for sure.... but the only reason i dont have uprated shocks is cause i cant afford them! :( and with the boot needing to b redone, i am not goin to b able to afford them for a good few months which really pisses me off as i hate the dam body roll an the springs are slowly but surely buggerin the shocks! grrr :mad:
 
surfin_fella said:
Apex kit is pretty damn good. I don't like the idea of anyone using lowering springs on standard shocks though! Seems stupid to me. From a performance viewpoint

You can use standard shocks on lowered springs, it depends on how much you lower them. With minis you can generally lower them approx 3/4" (20mm odd) with the standard dampers. Any more and get the problems that Mase seems to be having. Any one know of a good place to get either lowered shocks or sporting shocks to fit my Cinq S?
But I agree it should be better to match performance shocks and springs, its just that all's not lost if you can't.
 
surfin_fella said:
Apex kit is pretty damn good. I don't like the idea of anyone using lowering springs on standard shocks though! Seems stupid to me. From a performance viewpoint

I dont really agree from a mechanical PoV either... They would ideally be designed to be as close to the original spring stiffness as possible - then they would not slowly damage the shocks.

The fact that the springs are stiffened will mean the dynamics of the system are thrown out a fair bit, it may only by 10-30% extra, but unless the shocks are re-matched to reflect the new stiffness of the system they will prematurely wear out.

But apparently under most driving - the wear is minimal. Eg: Its only really needed for regular hard driving\ track use

Chaos - Any Cinq/ Sei Sporting springs \ dampers will fit yours. Fastfiat do springs and shocks that give a drop that makes the ride height the same as the Sporting on -40mm springs.
 
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arseofbox said:
Chaos - Any Cinq/ Sei Sporting springs \ dampers will fit yours. Fastfiat do springs and shocks that give a drop that makes the ride height the same as the Sporting on -40mm springs.

Cheers
Good thing then - I have of Apex springs, originally for a sporting (lowers a sporting by 30mm). Therefore I should get a drop of approx 40mm, correct? I think I would have to change shocks due to over compression of the standard shocks. Thinking about it, sporting dampers would be too long and be over compressed as well wouldn't they?
 
If you drive a Cinq S or SX Chaos then the -30mm springs for a Sporting will only lower your S or SX 10mm as non Sporting models are 20mm higher.

Liam
 
bloomfieldliam said:
If you drive a Cinq S or SX Chaos then the -30mm springs for a Sporting will only lower your S or SX 10mm as non Sporting models are 20mm higher.

Liam

It'd be the other way round wouldn't it?. Assuming you have 2 cinqs - 1 sporting and the other a S/SX. The sporting is 10-20mm lower. The -30mm springs would further increase the drop to 40-50mm compared to a standard height S/SX. As the springs are exactly the same for both the sporting and S/SX, the spring lengths would be exactly the same, so in theory I should get a 40 - 50mm drop from my standard S/SX ride height. Or have I got it wrong :rolleyes: There's only 1 way to find out and it involves some spring compressors and a tape measure.........
 
WTF?

Erm right, maybe I didn't explain that last post too clearly.

Before I post anymore answer these questions

1. What Cinq do you drive?

2. Is the suspension standard?

Liam
 
chaos said:
It'd be the other way round wouldn't it?. Assuming you have 2 cinqs - 1 sporting and the other a S/SX. The sporting is 10-20mm lower. The -30mm springs would further increase the drop to 40-50mm compared to a standard height S/SX. As the springs are exactly the same for both the sporting and S/SX, the spring lengths would be exactly the same, so in theory I should get a 40 - 50mm drop from my standard S/SX ride height. Or have I got it wrong :rolleyes: There's only 1 way to find out and it involves some spring compressors and a tape measure.........

in theory if u bought 40mm drop for a sporting, then u should get closer to a 50mm maybe even more on an s/sx

however i think you can only get about a 40mm drop on the standard shocks at the most as i have -55mm springs on my sporting with standard shocks and i have only got about 40-45mm of drop out of them, that could be partly down to the springs as well, but i sold a set of 40mm sporting springs to a guy with an sx a little while ago, and they only seemed to drop his about 40mm as well :confusing:
 
I got springs that will take a SPORTING down 30mm. Therefore as a sporting is lower than an S/SX (I own an S) the standard sporting springs are already shorter than the standard S springs. The lowering springs that I have are shorter again compared to the standard sporting springs. Therefore the difference in height betwen my lowering springs and my standard S springs is the equivalent of the 30mm (amount of lowering for a sporting) PLUS the difference between standard sporting and standard S springs (between 10 and 20mm). Therefore I should get a drop of 40 to 50mm depending on the height difference between a standard sporting and a standard S.

Note - I am ignoring any contribution from the dampers.
 
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