General twin air in cinqucento?

Sir16v · Mar 3, 2011

its been a little idea ive whiring around but as per usual i cant afford it,

was wondering what your thoughts on such a project would be?

the plan,

Cinquecento--->remove old engine (and the rest of the work)

----->in place the 875cc twin air,

if i could i would,would you?

si

AppleSei · Mar 3, 2011

Is that one of the new engines?

Its going to be at least 5k just for the block (thats even before you think of the running side of things) if theres any knocking about already, theyre not that old

I wouldnt, not in an old cinq anyway

ycming · Mar 3, 2011

Not 100% on this, but i think the twin air uses the Fire gearbox, so in theory to fir the cinq. All you need is to get the drive side engine mount made up ?

But how you going to run it is a massive problem.

Ming

dronenrs · Mar 3, 2011

susan boyle sang a song to cover this.. " i dreamed a dream" .. LOL. would be pretty epic though.

Sir16v · Mar 3, 2011

AppleSei said:
Is that one of the new engines?

Its going to be at least 5k just for the block, if theres any knocking about already, theyre not that old

I wouldnt

yeah one of the new ones,mainly come to think of it because of running costs of today that always seem to be rising,

may be worth it in the future i think,but not yet

si

clock34 · Mar 3, 2011

1.4 16v = same power with less fuss.

your tax wont go down and fuel economy ont he twin air isnt actually that good.

youd be shooting yourself in the foot.

1.4 if you want power. then t-jet.

no reason for a twin air in a cento.

Sir16v · Mar 3, 2011

ycming said:
Not 100% on this, but i think the twin air uses the Fire gearbox, so in theory to fir the cinq. All you need is to get the drive side engine mount made up ?

But how you going to run it is a massive problem.

Ming

gonna be something il sit on for a while,seems possible but not worth it

dronenrs said:
susan boyle sang a song to cover this.. " i dreamed a dream" .. LOL. would be pretty epic though.

i dreamt a dream,turned out to be a nightmare,hope this doesnt lol

Sir16v · Mar 3, 2011

clock34 said:
1.4 16v = same power with less fuss.

your tax wont go down and fuel economy ont he twin air isnt actually that good.

youd be shooting yourself in the foot.

1.4 if you want power. then t-jet.

no reason for a twin air in a cento.

i can see what your saying and i do agree there,but hey never know this twin air may catch on,just considering the twin air over the standard 1108 fire engine

ycming · Mar 3, 2011

I would do it

. Twin air mpg figure is pretty amazing from fiat.

clock34 · Mar 3, 2011

find someone who backs up fiats claims.

a few mates of mine couldnt get it over 40mpg and topgear quoted it at 38.9 best they could get.....

ycming · Mar 3, 2011

rallycinq will have one soon (i think), so i think i'll find out from him

Sir16v · Mar 3, 2011

ycming said:
rallycinq will have one soon (i think), so i think i'll find out from him

the specs on papaer seem rather nice,but thats the mechanical ability,regarding the size of the cinq and weight it might be worth it

si

dronenrs · Mar 3, 2011

and one of the people in the 500 section couldnt get this up to MPG specs think it was munkul ?.. it also seems to struggle a little in some gears in the 500. but i wonder if a different ratio box would sort that... for 875cc it dosent half give some power mind. take it you would want twin air turbo ? not the N/A one

whitz · Mar 3, 2011

the 1.3 M-jet gets much better MPG and is a very torque happy engine (140nm) ad 75hp, engine is mainly made up of aluminium so its pretty light too

tax is £35 per year and im getting (on over a 1000 miles total of mainly short runs) 55mpg ive pushed it upto 100mpg while drafting a lorry for quite a while:slayer:

EDIT: weight is 975KG so can save some weight in a cinq but would need some beefy engine mount as the gearbox uses the same fire gearbox

Ash

clock34 · Mar 3, 2011

there all turbo droneners just different tuning. for 85 95 and 104bhp

Sir16v · Mar 3, 2011

dronenrs said:
take it you would want twin air turbo ? not the N/A one

the only twin air i know of so far has a supercharger to get the claimed 84 bhp
and adds lower grunt on the torque,gonna have me a look into the variations of the twin air and what could possibly be added to them power wise

Sir16v · Mar 3, 2011

whitz said:
the 1.3 M-jet gets much better MPG and is a very torque happy engine (140nm) ad 75hp, engine is mainly made up of aluminium so its pretty light too

tax is £35 per year and im getting (on over a 1000 miles total of mainly short runs) 55mpg ive pushed it upto 100mpg while drafting a lorry for quite a while:slayer:

EDIT: weight is 975KG so can save some weight in a cinq but would need some beefy engine mount as the gearbox uses the same fire gearbox

Ash

cheers for the info there,few more ways to make a old ciq last those few more years it deserves

clock34 · Mar 3, 2011

actually upon research there is one N/A 64bhp model the other two are definatly turbos though .... no superchargers though

Sir16v · Mar 3, 2011

clock34 said:
actually upon research there is one N/A 64bhp model the other two are definatly turbos though .... no superchargers though

i may of misread something there,or they mis-labelled something,would be a nice improvement over the standard 1108

clock34 · Mar 3, 2011

aye would be. imagine the ecu needed though. so much hastle.

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