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made a little bit of progress today cleaned all the mating surfaces again, especially the sump to get all the sealer off, fitted the new clean oil pickup only to find the new locktite i bought was pretty much empty

part of the painted block


sump and water pipe painted


one of the runners on the lower section of the inlet manifold, plenty of room for improvement


new cam carriers, its really manky but full of oil inside



couldn't find a picture anywhere of the cam seal off a stilo with a view of the mounting points for it, im guessing it would bolt on if i got one as this looks horrible



not to mension i had a clean up for my "dump" its like a game of hide and seek for fiat parts



just contemplating whether to get a 1.4 flywheel and clutch setup

Ash

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I'd keep the standard flywheel/clutch setup as you might go for the 1368 16v later which will come with them no doubt.

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been getting part's lately

just order all the stuff i need for the engine, £150 aint bad as bennets wanted £270

dremel came today

just trying to find a place that can lighten clutches

Ash

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not alot been going on with this weather

but has this the other day

ended up £150 lighter

got both the lower intake mani and head 1/4 ported. bloody Ofsted in college next week so i cant do it in there

Ash

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haha take the equiptment home!

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clock34 said:

haha take the equiptment home!

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ive got all the stuff to do it bar spring compressor

but in college ive got all my workshop "lessons" free as ive done all the stuff not to mention the two huge AC fans:slayer:

i might put a large ish delay on fitting this as mot is on aug the 10th and have the engine in after that :chin:

Ash

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have it in for the mot! make it a deadline. best way of getting anything done!

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clock34 said:

have it in for the mot! make it a deadline. best way of getting anything done!

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id love to but it isnt really going to be used alot as i wont be able to do the insurance on it

main problem with that engine for an mot is the emission as it wont have a cat and only one silencer

Ash

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and..... sounds like you need to find a freind who is a m.o.t er everyone should have one haha

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clock34 said:

and..... sounds like you need to find a freind who is a m.o.t er everyone should have one haha

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who says i don't

only part that is really stumping me is the wiring but haven't looked deeply into that yet and cash flow as a student but meh

Ash

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been porting alot and haven't even finished the inlet side yet

i was wondering, with the valve guides as they stick out abit into the port reducing flow drastically could they be ground back ?

ive seen it done elsewhere (migweb) but is it really worth going that far ?

Ash

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No they can't be ground back, if push comes to shove get your local shop to check them over after you have finished doing your headwork. I had to have 4 replaced but the original plan was to replace all of them. The head has only done 28k miles so wasn't even worn in yet so they just replaced the damaged ones for me at £4 each fitted.

They polished all my valves up for me, acid dipped the head, and reseated everything using my new seals I got with my gasket set.

Thanks

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Todger182 said:

No they can't be ground back, if push comes to shove get your local shop to check them over after you have finished doing your headwork. I had to have 4 replaced but the original plan was to replace all of them. The head has only done 28k miles so wasn't even worn in yet so they just replaced the damaged ones for me at £4 each fitted.

They polished all my valves up for me, acid dipped the head, and reseated everything using my new seals I got with my gasket set.

Thanks

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got any info for the place you went to ?

Ash

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few pics with a crap camera phone

chopped up mount/seal


partly ported intake port


a different nearly completed intake port


the "beast" its self, would make a nice sleeper but its fate isn't sealed yet



Ash

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pictureless update

been spending ages on the cylinder head, just dont like doing the deep in the ports as there so tiny

havent started on the wiring yet as im dreading it

valves are all in good nick just needs a clean

also is there any difference between a sporting and non sporting dash or is it just me ?

Ash

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whitz said:

also is there any difference between a sporting and non sporting dash or is it just me ?

Ash

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Just the instrument panel that's got the rev counter.

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porting has been going a bit slow as internal ports are annoyingly small

but been getting the car ready for its mot

washer not working, need new connectors to pump

rear tow eye/bumper mount badly corroded,eper sayd a temmer but im guessing its more now

and exhaust rubber mount held together with a cable tie

Ash

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good on ya fella. ive been spending alot of time around a blue 899 (modified) and its the ultimate sleeper. they look pretty good with propper black bumpers not grey and tints...

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porting has been going a bit slow as internal ports are annoyingly small

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ehe, they aren't fun to work with are they . I just took my time and plenty of steady movements as not to catch anywhere I shouldn't.

It will be worth the effort though .

Have you found a machine shop to tidy up and skim the head for you yet?

Thanks

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thanks for the encouragement

yup ive found a place locally to do the head skim, off the books

for the ports on the intake side im using 120, not too course to not too smooth and the exhaust is 240 and polished so should come up nicely

ive been pondering chopping off the ecu connector and splicing just that into the engine loom as the ecu connector would have the sensor wires coming off it as i havent heard or seen this done else where

also as seeing that an old panda had an attempted theft i will also wire is a hidden kill switch

Ash