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Old 23-01-2005   #1
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I know these cars look Awfull and have been given the worst name known to any car around the world (As far as im aware neways)But this is the Sorta car u would compare to the Seicento Abarth,I aint sure about the Specifications cant rlly be botherd to check,But i was wondering if ne one on here has had Expericance with one of these in a SEI or even a Cing rlly,Which is Quicker The Ford Ugly KA or a Seicento Abarth???
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Re: Ford Ka.....

my sister owns one... to be honest, ide have to say they pretty much have the same performance.

the cinq would be quicker off the mark tho. the KA isnt as slow as people say... its a normal hatch. but considering its a 1.3 and a 1.1 sporting would beat it off the mark and could easily match it for performance, its a **** engine lol.

I cant get over 90 in my sisters KA.. it just wont. my cinq can quite easily hit that speed and still keep pulling#

plus, KAs sound like diesels too. and they are horrible to drive. very boring.
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kinda doesnt really answer ur question.

Ide say the cinq was very slightly quicker. but there isnt that much difference in it.
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Re: Ford Ka.....

I used to drive one before I got my Sei. It's much quicker than my 899cc Sei lol. The 60bhp ones do 0-60 in 14.3s, or the newer 70bhp ones do it in 14.1s.

They definately handle better than my Sei too! They are a great car, and they look great too
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The old engine (1.3) is awful, from the Anglia, the newer one is an improvement.
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Agree with you bushboy, that 1.3-litre unit in the Ka is w**k! Its the old OHV unit IIRC, it's sluggish and unreliable and makes that bloody horrible ticking noise even if the valve clearances are perfectly set up. And 60bhp from a 1.3 is disgraceful! Nearly as bad as those old 60bhp 1.4s that VW used to put in the Golf/Polo.

However, I think that the Ka can look pretty good if it's modded right. i.e. lower it (especially that back end), replace the bumpers with a subtle bodykit, and fit some decent 15/16" alloys.
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The old 1.3 engine had a surprising amount of torque in 3rd gear - I think, but it souded awful like a shagged out fiesta (Used one as a learner) So it might be quicker mid range- 40-60mph
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Well then Ugly Ducklin,If ure Figures are correct a 1.1 Sporting is actually quicker 0-60 which is pretty good considering the diffrence in engine displacement,Im not expecting a huge diffence between the two cars but there has got to be some one with a Sei sporting that has had a shot against a Ka?Surly?Sounds like u loved the ugly looking KA with stupid wrap around the whole car bumpers,Cant understand why u got rid???
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Re: Ford Ka.....

The data you want:

http://www.parkers.co.uk/choosing/sp...pare1=&spare2=

Suggests higher top end on the new engine at 11mph higher and 3mph higher for the older one. It probably takes 2 weeks to get there.


The difference is the weight, it's 871kg....

0-60 the sei sporting would have it, the gearing isn't the same.
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Well, I can easily leave a standard Ka for dead in my Punto (used to race my mate in his, kick his ass then take the piss out of his engine ), which has the same engine as a Cinq/Sei Sporting. And the Punto's a bit heavier than a Cinq or Sei, mine's slightly tuned but it's only running 5 or 6bhp more than standard so it probably performs similarly to a standard Sei Sporting.
So in answer to your question: you can blow a standard Ka away no problem
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Re: Ford Ka.....

on a slightly similar note, can the 1.1 cento's beat a 1.3 old style (M reg) fiesta?
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I'd guess so Joe, the Fiesta is a bit bigger and heavier than the Ka, and its got that same pathetic excuse for an engine (I have something of a vendetta against those old Ford OHV motors, its that bloody noise they make, it does my head in! )
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Re: Ford Ka.....

Quote Originally Posted by JonnyBoy
I'd guess so Joe, the Fiesta is a bit bigger and heavier than the Ka, and its got that same pathetic excuse for an engine (I have something of a vendetta against those old Ford OHV motors, its that bloody noise they make, it does my head in! )
I had a MK1 XR2 (the original round head lamp model only made for 18months) which had the OHV Cross-flow engine, i had it bored out to 1760cc with twin Webber 40's, K&N's, Janspeed manifold & exhaust, Kent Rally cams 5 speed gear box conversion from a MK3 Escort RS1600i etc and it was very fast, it could hit 60 in 2nd no problem and didn't stop till you were well past 125mph by which time the flat front halted proceedings! Loved that car, wish I still had it to add to my collection

Back on subject tho, I have driven my Dad's black (best colour for them) KA3
which has a better chassis than the Cinq standard, with a infinitely much better, more precise, and solid feeling gear change. At motorway speeds I found it very quiet and relaxed to cruise at 80-85 with easily more to go, but then I don't know if they add more sound proofing to the top end models as it also has a very nice leather steering wheel and gear knob, air-con, CD player, alloys etc etc

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Well then Ugly Ducklin,If ure Figures are correct a 1.1 Sporting is actually quicker 0-60 which is pretty good considering the diffrence in engine displacement,Im not expecting a huge diffence between the two cars but there has got to be some one with a Sei sporting that has had a shot against a Ka?Surly?Sounds like u loved the ugly looking KA with stupid wrap around the whole car bumpers,Cant understand why u got rid???
I didn't get rid of the KA, it's my mums!

I quite liked the engine characteristics, you get max torque at around 2600rpm I think. The KA weighs more than 200kg more than the Sei, hence the slower speed!
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Sounds like an interesting Fiesta did you manage to stop that horrible ticking though?
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