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Steering 'dead zone', rack on it's way out?

Have just driven the Sei for the first time in months - round trip to Wakefield and back. There is a huge dead zone in the steering - about 15-20 degrees either way and a lot of knocking from the front going over bumps or potholes, made for a very, errr, interesting trip!!
The track rod ends (is that their name?) were the only bit that was disconnected during the clutch change and I don't think we got close enough to any other steering components to have been able to misalign them but is there anything I can check/adjust, or does it sound like the rack has had it and needs replaced?
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Re: Steering 'dead zone', rack on it's way out?

The nylock nuts that we removed (that hold the ball joints into the tie rod ends) were threaded, went to B&Q and got some new ones but just cannot get them tight enough as the whole assembly keeps spinning, I don't have anything I can use to separate the ball joints either so, grr
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Re: Steering 'dead zone', rack on it's way out?

The track rod ends are tapered so you need to apply severe downward presssure as you tighten them.

Jack handle will do the job lovely.

Why did you undo them to do the clutch?

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Re: Steering 'dead zone', rack on it's way out?

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The track rod ends are tapered so you need to apply severe downward presssure as you tighten them.

Jack handle will do the job lovely.

Why did you undo them to do the clutch?

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Followed the guide on here
Will try the jack handle, where to wedge the other end?
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Re: Steering 'dead zone', rack on it's way out?

Ermm see the nut you got from B&Q you sure it is at 1.25 pitch ? Am sure when i was looking for those nuts, B&Q didn't stock anything that fine!

Unless you have new track rod ends and they are threaded differently.

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Re: Steering 'dead zone', rack on it's way out?

Quote Originally Posted by Eklipze3k View Post
Followed the guide on here
Will try the jack handle, where to wedge the other end?
Under the engine/gearbag/driveshaft.

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Quote Originally Posted by ycming View Post
Ermm see the nut you got from B&Q you sure it is at 1.25 pitch ? Am sure when i was looking for those nuts, B&Q didn't stock anything that fine!

Unless you have new track rod ends and they are threaded differently.

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Thats a good call.

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Re: Steering 'dead zone', rack on it's way out?

I normally put the old ones back with some locktight, I do clean the nuts and threads.

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Re: Steering 'dead zone', rack on it's way out?

Aww man, don't tell me things like that!!! They might be new (I doubt it) but the nut threads on no problem right up the nylon, but that's when the whole ball starts to spin as I can't get enough pressure on it, even with the jack handle which btw, I have no idea how your going to get downward pressure on the rod end by wedging the handle under the engine Are we talking about the same thing?
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Aww man, don't tell me things like that!!! They might be new (I doubt it) but the nut threads on no problem right up the nylon, but that's when the whole ball starts to spin as I can't get enough pressure on it, even with the jack handle which btw, I have no idea how your going to get downward pressure on the rod end by wedging the handle under the engine Are we talking about the same thing?
Yup, thats the gearbag end. If your handle isn't long enough (sorry Carrie) put it under the driveshaft.

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Re: Steering 'dead zone', rack on it's way out?

Oohhhh, I think I get you now - less wedging, more fulcruming?
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Oohhhh, I think I get you now - less wedging, more fulcruming?
If thats a word, then thats it.

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Re: Steering 'dead zone', rack on it's way out?

Quote Originally Posted by Eklipze3k View Post
Followed the guide on here
Will try the jack handle, where to wedge the other end?
for reference, don't do that again. you just need to take the two bolts holding the hub carrier to the strut
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Re: Steering 'dead zone', rack on it's way out?

also make sure there is no wd40/grease/anything on the taper. clean it with solvent and it will tighten up with little pressure on the rod end.
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also make sure there is no wd40/grease/anything on the taper. clean it with solvent and it will tighten up with little pressure on the rod end.


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