(G) Dans 1368 cinq

Right, well as i have time at themo imightas well start the thread. As some of you may know im definately going to be fitting the 1.4 stilo engine in the cinq. Its currently running a 1242 with many mods, so a good starting point as i already have the marea brakes (same as GT brakes), 14" wheels and a full apex kit.

In a month or so i will no longer need a car as i plan to move above my work premises, so it has to be done.

Have started buying bits for the new engine. As i go i will i will include prices as i have nothing to hide. It also gives a slight insight into the real costs involved. Once im done i will not be adding it up though.

So far i have already bought:

supersprint manifold deigned for a 1.2 16v punto (code SUP814401 ) This worked out at £344 including delivery from Gazella, who had it with me within 24 hours of ordering. http://gazzella.cc/cart.php?target=p...tegory_id=1212

Oil filter (fits all 1.4 stilo, grande punto and 500) £7.50 delivered from ebay. Code WL7252

Bosch Super4 plugs for a FIAT STILO 1.4 16V 04-08 (code yr78x) £18 delivered from ebay.

Fuel Pressure Regulator with Gauge - Universal fit from ebay (nicenewcar). Looks very good quality and a good alternative to the SARD FPR's. £27 delivered.

BMC CDA filter from ebay. As new £40 (bargain)

Graphite manifold wrap (10m) to stop hoses melting if they touch the manifold. Ebay £15 delivered.

20 x Stainless steel cable ties for the above. £7 delivered from ebay.

2 x Silkaflex sealant (similar to tiger seal) for the engine mounts and anything else i feel it would benefit. Ebay £7 delivered.

Water pump to fiat fiat panda, stilo, etc (ETL PART No EWP069) Ebay £26 delivered.

New Walbro Fuel pump designed for fiat barchetta etc. (Code ESS-452). I bought this on the offchance it will be u to the job and will fit as it only cost £19 delivered via ebay.

Magnecor KV85 Ignition Leads for a Fiat Punto mk1 Sporting. Brand new via ebay for £25 delivered (bargain)

I also managed to get hold of the 1.2 punto sporting ECU, inlet manifold, engine wiring loom, fuel rail and alternator all for £40 as i had to remove all myself.

MPI seicento strutbrace from strutbracer.co.uk for £83 delivered: http://strutbracer.co.uk/page1.php?s...d=274&manuf=26

I also purchased the same connects from Greencotton that Aaron used in one of his threads. This worked out to be around £37 delivered (but have not recieved yet and has taken very close to a month so far, but have been told 3 times now it will be in stock in 2 days)) Good job im not in a rush.

1.6 bravo Throttle body via fiatforum classifieds for £27.50 delivered. As pictured here: https://www.fiatforum.com/gallery/sh...hp?photo=57108

Think thats about it. Oh and i managed to get hold of front and rear abarth bumpers to match my skirts. Just need a bit of sanding and painting (both for about £10)

Plans for when i have the engine are to lighten the flywheel and have the head ported polished and skimmed. I am also going to flow the inlet before fitting if i can find out what size i should increase the ports to. Not sure at the mo as i think the gaskets are different to the 1242's. If anybody has any ideas on this please let me know as id like to get this done while i have a car.

Many thanks to Aaron, kriptip and arc and many others for their very informative threads and yes ive stolen lots of ideas.

Also thanks to everybody that pushed me in this direction in my previous thread on what to do.

And for anybody wondering what the engine looked like thats coming out to make way:

cool will be following closely. good luck

subscribed Good luck with it

that's gotta be some sort of record for them!

Happy to help

Have a read of this re the fuel rails / injectors.

https://www.fiatforum.com/cinquecent...ml#post2242552

What be really good, if you can do a matching up the loom for dummies.

Like Cinq red wire goes to blue wire on the punto loom. that be great help!!!

Will be watching with care too

Ming

I do plan on doing a wiring 'guide' in here if its that easy. I have no idea how im gonna do the wiring yet but whats the worst that can happen. lol

Yes was really impressed with gazzella. Remember using them for my old cinq a few years ago and spending alot of money. Main reason i phoned was to see if they had it in stock before ordering. They still had it on record and even gave me a discount if i paid via bank credit. Paid at 3pm and recieved at 10am the next morn. Superb

Green cotton on the other hand are ****. Phoned them again to ask when it was going to be delivered now expecting to be told another cople of days for a 4th time, but no they offered to post half my order and the rest would be 3 more weeks So thats refunded now. Think ill look into the red 90 degree hose that arc uses. A link where you got it from would be good as the lengths after the bends vary quite alot.

this may help - its what i worked out (plus some stuff out the 16F manual) when i put my new ecu in.


SFS; 90 deg 70mm elbow in red (E90-70)

http://www.siliconhose.com/content.a...&catalog=MS102

Thanks for that. Gone for a black one so you can say your red ones unique.

Have come accross thats wiring before in an old thread, possibly megasquirt one. I also have a huge amount of info on every wire in the cinq, and punto sporting. Cant remember whos it was though.

arc's 1368 uses megasquirt

Has a 1242 16v ecu been used for a 1368 before or was it only discussed?

It's been used on a 1242 16v before and it was fine!

https://www.fiatforum.com/cinquecent...onversion.html

Ming

Yes i know, was tempted by megasquirt but not clever enough.

ECU has been used several times to great success. Mainly in poland i believe.

So arc with the injectors, currentl;y your running the 1.2 16v brava fuel rail with 1.4 16v injectors in the 1.2 16v punto inlet manifold. Did you do anything with the seating in the end?

I meant that's where the wiring spec probably came from (arc doing his Cinq)

good luck with it all mate im sure i could pop down sometime to give u a hand at some point lol

Adz

That's right yeah. I didn't do anything with the seating in the end, they seat fine - no leakage, and spray must be fine as each cylinder burns cleanly.

Keeping an eye open for a brava one. Guessing the bravo is the same?

Also can somebody confirm that the fuel hose internal diameter is all 5/16's inch? Dan