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Wheel Spacers / Wheel Bolts

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I can't remember what thread i read but i am sure there were some longer wheel bolts i can take off an alfa or fiat i can use when putting on 10mm spacers on the front of my cinq.
any ideas?

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Re: Wheel Spacers / Wheel Bolts

10mm may be a bit much. Pop into your local Alfa dealer with your old bolts, see what they have. Failing that, places like Tweeks and even eBay will have something to suit. The thread is 12x1.25.
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Re: Wheel Spacers / Wheel Bolts

Fiat Seicento Abarths fitted with 14" 5.5J ET36 wheels have 10mm spacers at front as standard with stud conversion.

The spacers are very well made and about 32 from Fiat IIRC. The studs are very expensive from Fiat, so better off using normal longer studs which are widely available from retailers like Rally Design.

Though it has to be asked, why do you want them?
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Re: Wheel Spacers / Wheel Bolts

thanks for that
would you know what length to buy?

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Re: Wheel Spacers / Wheel Bolts

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thanks for that
would you know what length to buy?

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As rule of thumb, full length of existing bolt, + 10mm (for your spacer). They're generally available in 10mm increments, so go longer rather than shorter. Don't forget you need nuts to suit (I prefer the open end ones) and you'll need locktite, a decent solvent (to clean the threads in the hub -- petrol or spirit wipe) and a little coppaslip for the exposed threads (means the nuts come off more easily so you don't end up winding the stud out rather than the nut!).

But, like the man says, what are you doing?
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Re: Wheel Spacers / Wheel Bolts

The original length of a sporting bolts is 23mm (taking into acount they have 3mm spacers) So you will need 30mm wheel bolts for your cinq.?

I think these should do,

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Fiat-alloy-whe...QQcmdZViewItem

And you can get the OEM fiat spacers from the sei abarth, I'll see if i can get the part number for you, when i get home. (Don't get universal spacers, they will making your steering shake, not good at all)

They cost about 40 quid for a set.

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Re: Wheel Spacers / Wheel Bolts

I'd suggest not going the bolt route.

The Abarth way is fine. The stud way is fine. To my mind, studs make it easier late at night when you're kneeling in a puddle.

Don't use universal spacers, but you can get plain spacers (at 10mm you don't need hubcentrics) with Fiat/Alfa PCD and the right centrebore.
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Re: Wheel Spacers / Wheel Bolts

The stud way is extremely expensive compare to getting the bolts when i checked.

If you can the wheel locator bolt (i think that's what they called) from fiat as well, then the spacers will be held in place, and putting the wheel on will just be the same as before but with longer bolts.

But yes, if u got the cash, i would recommend going for the stud conversions .

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Re: Wheel Spacers / Wheel Bolts

Wheel bolts ~1.20 each

Studs~0.60
Nuts~0.80

Rough prices but only an extra 3.20 for stud conversion

Im doing it soon as ill be using steelies and alloys and cba carrying another set of shorter bolts around for the steelies
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Re: Wheel Spacers / Wheel Bolts

link to get them ???

Last i checked was with fluffy.
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Re: Wheel Spacers / Wheel Bolts

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If you can the wheel locator bolt (i think that's what they called) from fiat as well, then the spacers will be held in place, and putting the wheel on will just be the same as before but with longer bolts.
Problem is, the FIAT ones won't have a long enough thread to get through a 10mm spacer, and I think even the Alfa ones will be too short. It then comes down to finding someone with a little lathe to turn up a few spire nits to suit.........
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Re: Wheel Spacers / Wheel Bolts

again i got some from fluffy, and they are original fiat ones . I'll get the part number for them when i get home.

It was Kritrip that gave me the part number.

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Re: Wheel Spacers / Wheel Bolts

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link to get them ???

Last i checked was with fluffy.
rally design

Any rally place will do them. Rally nuts, merlin, my local RSM does them

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It then comes down to finding someone with a little lathe to turn up a few spire nits to suit.........
I dont have a 12x1.25 die so i carnt make any

EDIT:Im thinking of the wrong bit here,lol, thought you were on about the thing you can put in to help you put the wheel on
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Re: Wheel Spacers / Wheel Bolts

Sorry J33EVO/Fingers99 i missed the bit of the thread to the reason why i want them, the reason being i heard if you add spacers at the front the handling of the car will be better i.e more responsive?

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Re: Wheel Spacers / Wheel Bolts

What do i need to ask for liek the pitch, and stuff like that (i'll got no idea)

Studs -?
Nuts -?

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