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Old 26-02-2008   #1
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Anyone running Toyo R888 Tyres on a cinq/ sei. The look great but only avail in 50 profile (195/50) ? Any good? Or overkill ?
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The R888 is realy a track tyre and is not really meant for day to day use. Basically they are road legal enough to get you too and from your track day

Have a look at the Toyo Proxes they look good as do the Yoko's and are available in more sizes
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195/50 on what wheels?

Before buying Toyos, take a look at Fluffy the Impaler's crash on You Tube!
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From what I've seen Mick turned in a little late and went wide, he was a little hot so the rear was lose. On exit he caught a little bit of dirt and the rear stepped out, he couldn't hold it or correct it properly so completely lost it on the fishtail return and ended up sliding into the barrier/tyre wall.
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Not so sure, a little hot, maybe, but it looked as though he just couldn't catch it, which might be down to the tyres..........
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Well.... I have little brand loyalty when it comes to tyres the Turbo runs Proxes at the moment and they cope. The times that and are a bit scary is in the same greasy conditions as most others tyres struggle. would they be good enough for a NA Cento yes without a doubt

In the wet I have gone through motorway puddles at speed and they just ploughed through, the turn in in the dry is good and you get good feel. In contrast the Conti's on the NA feel a bit more neutral they just do the job with no drama and they have never given me an oh cr*p moment as you know just what is happening at the wheels.

I have never driven a cinq on Uniroyals so can't comment just as John has never tried a similar output car with Toyo's or Conti's. Even then it is about how you like a car to feel and behave so it is all subjective

Looking at the indepentent tyre tests the Toyo Proxes just beat the Uniroyals overall and they both beat the Conti-sports. but that is down to there rating in snowy conditions and TBO i would rather walk or not go out at all than use the Turbo on snow covered roads

All High performance cars struggle in certain conditions as tyres are designed with certain conditions in mind. but in the UK go for a tyre that can cope with a modicum of wet
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Of course, the other thing is the car: I can only say that between us, me and Aaron have tried just about every 14" tyre out there on Cinqs and Seis. We both agree that nothing suits that car better than the Uniroyals. On another car we might come to a completely different conclusion, and the conclusions mighty be different........

Still want to know what wheels Robin wants to run the 195/50s on.......
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u got the link ?????found it, if any body want to see it

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I don't think that was down to tyres at all, not unless he didn't check his pressures before going on, in general track day pressures are a bit higher than normal driving. I know I run in the integrale 32psi all round normally, but for track days 34front 37rear works well. Some of the lines were a little interesting as well, though if you ever take a Cinq onto track the roll in them even with uprated suspension is shocking and can make you take different lines as you try and compensate.

Having driven Cinqs now on a variety of tyres I'd say the Uniroyals or the Toyos are top of my list in 195/45 14, with Conti's not far off as you can't get either Uniroyal or Toyo in that size so they are my top 185/50 14 for 5.5J (i.e. Abarth) sized rims.

As for others tried, Yoko's in 185/50 14, didn't rate them at all, good dry grip, very poor wet and wore out very quickly, like 6K all 4 tyres quickly on turbo which is awful. Dunlop Sport SP2000, very poor, again OK dry grip, OK in wet, but the in between bit were its not raining but not yet dry, the green phase, lethal. Nangkang, just no.

As for other tyres not tried on Cinqs because not available for them in the normal sizes, Goodyear Eagle F1 are just brilliant, rated top by both integrale and GT4 owners for good reason, though interestingly Toyo are also rated highly by both for those on a budget too small for Goodyears.

Over the years tried loads but no point mentioning any others you can't use
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hi, Its a set of 6 J wheels i got cheap. I think they are fox or rimstock from a punto. They re indeed 15s but after trying them on the car i am going to need some reduced lock/ arch mods..........maybe i should have stuck to wide 13s after all.......... The 888 toyos take me back to the old A008 R yokohamas from yesteryear. They look super sticky.- Thought i would ask if anyone was using them.

Now i have my head up my ass with what i am trying to do. Where can i get some nice wide 13s. I really want the car LOW and high reving, and my 15s just might not do that for me! Where can i buy a decent set of 13s in 98/ 100 pcd with the proper hubcentric spacer. Wobbly wheels are no use to me!! its been a while since alloy wheel companies made 13s in any quanties.

The more i think about it...........I have made the wrong decesion. I want 13s.

Help.
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You can get Eagle F1 in 195/45/15 as thats what the panda 100hp has on it.


I didn't like the grip that much on them, but, that may be down to the feel and weight of the car more than the tyres tbh. Never tried them on a cento.


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Just about everyone does 195/45/15s nowadays.

The Marangonis have good rep and are very cheap, I think under 35 a corner. I have a set waiting to go on Blue.
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