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Old 17-05-2004   #1
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Won't go into gear! Quick help needed

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I'm trading my Cinqy Sporting in on Wednesday but it now won't go into gear! Is there anything I can do to sort this in order to PX it?

I really need some help on this as I can't get it in gear to drive it anywhere! Help please.

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has ur clutch hit the ground? (i.e no play in the pedal, it just sits on the floor)

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especially at the gearbox end, I poped one off hiting the gearbox on a speed hump!

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Try adjusting the cable up.

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The cable hasn't snapped and the pedal is pretty high, I should try and let it out a little more and see what happens?

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The cable hasn't snapped and the pedal is pretty high, I should try and let it out a little more and see what happens?

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OK Scott a couple of things to try and identify the problem.
1) You say the pedal is pretty high. Does that mean level with the brake pedal, or higher, or lower? By how much?

2) Can you press the pedal gently, and if so, how far does it go? Will it go down to the floor, without obvious resistance, and if so would you say it was the same as usual or lighter or harder to push? If it's really hard to push don't force it, as you could do more damage than you'd want to. Does it make any strange noises as you try to do this?

3) With the engine stopped, not running, can you run through all the gears ok without any problems? If so it would suggest there is not a linkage problem. If it won't go through the gears neatly, as Custard Boy says, it could be one of the gear connections has 'popped' off it's ball.

4) DO THIS WITH CARE!! With the Engine stopped, and the handbrake on FULLY, and at least a car's length of clearance in front of you, and your right foot FIRMLY on the brake, your left foot depressing the clutch FULLY, if you put it into top, and try to start the car, does it try to lurch forward? If so it would suggest the clutch is 'dragging' or not freeing properly. You need to be very sure the car won't take off down the road when doing this, hence handbrake, foot on brake etc. Be ready to switch it off immediately.

If you can start the car and it runs, then VERY GENTLY and SLOWLY ease the clutch up until you feel it starting to bite, (as if you were pulling away), and listen for unusual sounds. You may find the car starts but feels as if it wants to be off down the road. That means the clutch is dragging. You may be able to temporarily fix that with a cable adjustment.

Try these first and see how you get on. Let us know.

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Thanks for the advice, here goes:

1) The pedal, from memory seems higher than the brake pedal.
2) The clutch can be pressed gently and will go to the floor without any problems. It seems ho harder or lighter than before. I donít notice any strange noises, maybe intermittently, but nothing constant.
3) All gears are absolutely fine and smooth, even reverse when the engine is off.
4) I have not tried 4 as yet but last week I tried starting the car in 1st with my foot on the clutch and it did seem to want to move.

However yesterday I adjusted the clutch-let it out so the pedal is now higher and there is not much adjustment left. It seemed fine, maybe a little chrunchy in reverse. Iíve not touched it since, hopefully it will be ok when I need to drive it later.

Thanks for all of your help, presumably if it is not fine later I should let the clutch out a little more?

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Thanks for the advice, here goes:
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4) I have not tried 4 as yet but last week I tried starting the car in 1st with my foot on the clutch and it did seem to want to move.

However yesterday I adjusted the clutch-let it out so the pedal is now higher and there is not much adjustment left. It seemed fine, maybe a little chrunchy in reverse. Iíve not touched it since, hopefully it will be ok when I need to drive it later.

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When you try starting it in gear you should use a high gear as the car is much less likely to pull away and more likely to stall, so you find out immediately if it's dragging.

I would suggest you adjust everything to the point where it works, then don't drive it until you part exchange the car. The new owner will get some sort of warranty with it, so the garage will have to take the hit of replacing/repairing the clutch out of it's (usually healthy) profit.

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Yes, and I've even rang them yesterday and said it was playing up a little so my conscience is clear, although when I get there they will probably try and knock a couple of hundred quid off the trade-in price! We shall see.

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............... when I get there they will probably try and knock a couple of hundred quid off the trade-in price! We shall see.

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Scott.
Don't let them! Stand your ground and they will eventually back down. Just don't tell them anything about the problem at all. Whenever I take a car in to a garage to PX it I even take the tax disc off. They never sell you a car with the tax on, so I don't either. Fairs fair.

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Thanks for everyone's help on this. Got it traded in on Wednesday night, now taken possession of a yellow Seicento Sporting, with 27000 miles on it. Looked at the 2 keys and they had a 2 on the metal so presume that's ok and don't need the red key.

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ur right mate they don't need the red key. now make sure ya put one of those keys in a really safe place!

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Done!

Thanks for all the help everyone.

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