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Old 07-03-2003   #1
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Another Clutch / gear box issue

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My son is having problems changing gear as follows - any advice as to what the problem is would be gratefully received.

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On wednesday the car's gears were really bad. Hard to get it in gear and when going from 1st to 2nd it 'shunted' into the gear rather than me sliding it into gear. I thought this might be due to overheating, so after a unscheduled trip to sainbury's it was OK.

This moring however after starting the engine it was back again. This time even worse.

I have noticed that I can put it in gear with the engine off, and if in gear with the handbrake off the car moves forward (as if the clutch is already past biting point). I though this might explain the problem, possible even with the clutch down the gears are not disengaged? However i can still stall the car (I tested this).

This is quite worrying especially if the car can do this with no stimulas (e.g. overheating) and the shunting into the next gear not v. good.

The problem is seen the most in 1st and 2nd. Going into 3rd is OK however going back is bad. I havn't been able to get it into 4th and reverse just creates griding of gears noise of epic proportions.

Any ideas?


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Sorry I posted this before looking. It looks like cable adjustment but could it be something else.

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Give us a shout back if it doesn't fix it, there's a couple of common things to look at.

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Sure will - but I am keeping my fingers crossed that its just cable adjustment - otherwise it could be expensive.

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Well my gearbox snds like urs 2 hard 2 get in 1-2 when 1st started and driven i got fiat 2 take a look and they reckon my cable was fine so its probably the gearbox but 4 500 2 recondition it im jus gonna drive it till the gearbox fallls apart as its still driveable.

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Well its bad news, its not the clutch cable - probably a new clutch - quoted 190 fixed by Monday, we need the car to work so not a lot of choise

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190 4 a new clutch thats a bit pricey ain't it? im sure u can get it done 4 less than that.

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mmmm ive had so many problems with my gearbox..i have a seicento sporting and it been back to the garage that many times i cant remember!!! Its always the third to second that is a nightmare and putting it into reverse is particularly bad. Ive had new clutch cables, a hook part replaced..allsorts...and i still get the occasional crunch..ive given up....;)

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Check this bit: underneath the dash on the passenger side
https://www.fiatforum.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=896
and also the clutch arm bushes inside the bellhousing could be worn, in which case a new clutch wouldn't fully cure it. Unfortunately you need the gearbox off to check them though.

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Hi,

Yes it is a bit pricey but it should be fixed today and we need the car working asap!

Many thanks for the advice - I shall let you know the outcome!

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Well the garage "did not have the part" and so the clutch was not fixed until yesterday - Tuesday. However it is now fixed - changing gear is now easy, I am told. I will get to see the Cinq on Friday so if there is any other info I will share it with you then.

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I've been unlucky to have this happen to me, called the RAC out, sounds like clutch release bearing has gone. Took to RAC appd garage, charged 240 to fix it plus to fix the lovely handbrake.

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Re: Another Clutch / gear box issue

hi, I HAVE THE SAME CAR WITH THE SAME PROBLEMS. DOES IT MAKE A NOISE FROM UNDER THE BONNET? AND THEN THE NOISE GOES WHEN YOU PUT THE CLUTCH DOWN?
I TOOK MINE TO A GARAGE AND THEY THOUGHT IT COULD BE MY CLUTCH. SO I HAD THAT DONE THEN IT TURNT OUT THAT IT WAS MY GEAR BOX. HE TOLD ME ALL FIAT PUNTO'S HAVE THE SAME PROBLEMS, NOISEY GEAR BOXES. I TOLD HIM THAT WHEN I CHANGE GEARS IT MAKES A SOUND FROM THE GEARS INSIDE THE CAR, HE TOLD ME EVENTRULY I WILL NEED A NEW GEAR BOX, BUT THEY CAN LAST LIKE THAT FOR YEARS.

SO I THINK YOU WILL NEED A NEW GEAR BOX IN TIME.
I THINK IT WILL COST ABOUT 400 2 500. FITTED.
WELL THATS WHAT MR CLUTCH IN ACTON TOLD ME.

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Re: Another Clutch / gear box issue

Get You Clutch Done At Mr Clutch In Acton, They Charged Me 148 Fitted
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Re: Another Clutch / gear box issue

i only pay bout a 100 for a clutch, fittted and i though that was expensive
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