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Question Do Cinq Sportings have front wheel spacers as standard????

Just got myself a Cinq Haynes manual today and was looking through the braking system section. In section 9.7, picture 6.8b, it shows a wheel spacer being removed from a front disc.

How come? Is this only on the Sportings because they have alloys? And does this mean that an 899cc Cinq will need spacers to fit Sporting alloys? Will the alloys not fit properly without them?

I'm confused! I would have thought they'd make the alloys fit the car rather than adapting the car to fit the alloys. Or are they the same alloys as those fitted to Uno turbo mk2, which might explain the use of spacers to make them fit both cars?
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Re: Do Cinq Sportings have front wheel spacers as standard????

as far as i recall, the sporting uses a 3mm spacer on the front wheels, dunno why, but its deffo there on all the ones ive owned

not sure about the 899, have a look, its obvious if its there.

as i said, i dunno why its there, but its not because it uses UT wheels, as there are 14", and a different offset as I know
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Re: Do Cinq Sportings have front wheel spacers as standard????

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as far as i recall, the sporting uses a 3mm spacer on the front wheels, dunno why, but its deffo there on all the ones ive owned

not sure about the 899, have a look, its obvious if its there.

as i said, i dunno why its there, but its not because it uses UT wheels, as there are 14", and a different offset as I know
Cheers for the response Pete!

Haven't had a chance to look at my 899 hubs yet, only read the manual about 30 minutes ago while sitting on the bog!

UT wheels aren't 14" by the way - both mk1 and mk2 used 13" alloys. The mk1 had the 'square hole' wheels and the mk2 had the same style as the Cinq Sporting. I had heard that the Cinq and Uno used different offsets, which might have explained the use of spacers. As far as I know the Uno turbo never had spacers fitted. The Tempra also had the same style 'Sporting' wheels but in 14", so maybe you're getting mixed up with those?

I want to know if my 899 has spacers but I don't think jacking it up and removing wheels is the right thing to do at 1.30am!
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UT wheels aren't 14" by the way - both mk1 and mk2 used 13" alloys. The mk1 had the 'square hole' wheels and the mk2 had the same style as the Cinq Sporting. I had heard that the Cinq and Uno used different offsets, which might have explained the use of spacers. As far as I know the Uno turbo never had spacers fitted. The Tempra also had the same style 'Sporting' wheels but in 14", so maybe you're getting mixed up with those?
I was confusing the Strada Wheels Aaron had with the UT wheels jai had. I was gonna buy one of the 2 a while back, and now I keep confusing the 2, and thier sizes and offsets

Im pretty sure the offsets still wrong on the UT wheels, and WAY off on the strada ones
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Re: Do Cinq Sportings have front wheel spacers as standard????

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I was confusing the Strada Wheels Aaron had with the UT wheels jai had. I was gonna buy one of the 2 a while back, and now I keep confusing the 2, and thier sizes and offsets

Im pretty sure the offsets still wrong on the UT wheels, and WAY off on the strada ones
I remember the white Strada wheels Aaron used to have on his old Cinq before it got totalled. They wouldn't fit without spacers from what I remember him saying. Same style as the Uno turbo mk1 wheels, just in 14" rather than 13".

I've heard many times that the Cinq alloys are a different offest to the Uno alloys. Seems weird that Fiat made the Cinq Sporting wheels for the the Cinqs only but still used spacers when the Uno had a totally different offset for the same styled wheels in the same size! That would mean making two completely different sets of 13" alloys that looked the same but with different ET I wonder if it's got something to do with the tyre size on the Cinq Sporting compared with the 899cc wheels?
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Re: Do Cinq Sportings have front wheel spacers as standard????

The 3mm spacer helps the wheels with a 30.5 ET fit the 27.5 ET hubs I think, this isn't relevant if fitting other wheels however.

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Re: Do Cinq Sportings have front wheel spacers as standard????

The wheels will fit fine without the spacers. Although they must be there for a reason so might as well fit them anyway if you have them.

As for Uno Turbo wheels. both MK1 and MK2 had 13" alloys as standard.

The MK2 wheels, although the same design as the Cinq sporting wheels are a completly different offset and need 20mm spacers to fit as otherwise they catch the strut mounts on the front and probs catch the inner arch on the back. The tipo also had wheels of the same design but they are 14".

As for MK1 wheels, I think the strada had wheels to the same style but I have no idea what size or dimentions they were. MK1 wheels will not fit a cinq without 15mm spacers minimum. Whether that brings them to the correct offset, i dont know.
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Re: Do Cinq Sportings have front wheel spacers as standard????

The 3mm spacers may have been fitted to increase the track?

899s, to my knowledge, do not have spacers.

Mk 2 UT alloys have an offset of 36 IIRC.
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Re: Do Cinq Sportings have front wheel spacers as standard????

The Sportings have 3mm spacers. The 899 doesn't. As said,the wheels will fit without spacers.

So, why did FIAT fit them?

1. It improves turn in.
2. (I raise this as a possibility, not as a certainty) for motor sport homologation reasons. I'm thinking, if it's homologated with spacers, you can use (any)spacers, if not, you can't. Alfa 155s have spacers at the front only, too.
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