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Bravo petrol 150tjet. Timing belt when clutch replaced??

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I have a 2009 Bravo. its a 1.4n petrol t-jet 150.


Sadly the clutch gave up over the weekend, so it will be going in to be replaced.


It just dawned on me to ask if the timing belt and water pump become accessible during the clutch replacement. I know this needs doing, so was just wondering whether I might be able to avoid duplicating labour costs here?


Thanks in advance for any help here.


Brendan
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Re: Bravo petrol 150tjet. Timing belt when clutch replaced??

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Hi.
I'm new here, so please be gentle with me!


I have a 2009 Bravo. its a 1.4n petrol t-jet 150.


Sadly the clutch gave up over the weekend, so it will be going in to be replaced.


It just dawned on me to ask if the timing belt and water pump become accessible during the clutch replacement. I know this needs doing, so was just wondering whether I might be able to avoid duplicating labour costs here?


Thanks in advance for any help here.


Brendan


It wont make a difference on labour as its on the other side of the engine.


How much will it be to replace your clutch?
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Re: Bravo petrol 150tjet. Timing belt when clutch replaced??

Thanks JackFi.
Garage called this afternoon to say it needs flywheel, slave and master cylinder plus the clutch. Just over £1000 for the lot.
Seems with this list it might be the sad day to say bye-bye bravo.

If anyone has any bright ideas of how to get this cost down then I'm all ears!!
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Re: Bravo petrol 150tjet. Timing belt when clutch replaced??

Find out what he's charging you for the parts, then price them up on ECP/Shop4parts (with discount codes). If it's considerably cheaper, offer to buy the parts and have him fit them.

However, I suspect labour will be the killer; to get to the clutch, they've got to split the gearbox from the block, which (i'm lead to believe) is not straightforward; parts have to come out to get access. In that case, you can either find a garage that charges a lower rate per hour, or do it yourself.



The way I justified my recent expenditure on my bravo was this: The car, other than the part at fault, is in good condition with a known history. The cost of repair (about £800 all in this month) is the same as about 4 months lease on something new and equally well equipped. So, if the repair lasts 4 months (which it hopefully will), i'm in the black.

Alternatively, I could have replaced it with something used, and, in the price brackets i'd be looking at, potentially equally broken (just with an unknown fault) or ripe to lose many times the repair cost in depreciation over the next year or so. Adding on the cost of changing the car (insurance costs, tax loss etc) and it didn't make sense.
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Re: Bravo petrol 150tjet. Timing belt when clutch replaced??

How the hell dose it need slave AND master cylinder I would say heís having you on ... most decent clutch kits come with slave cylinder any way ....
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Re: Bravo petrol 150tjet. Timing belt when clutch replaced??

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How the hell dose it need slave AND master cylinder I would say heís having you on ... most decent clutch kits come with slave cylinder any way ....
Not on the t-jet.

The t-jet slave cylinder is ~50-100 euro
The DMF ~200 euro (now they are really that cheap...they were 400 a few years ago)
Clutch kit ~100 euro

Labor is ~5 hours.
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Quote Originally Posted by ash bravo View Post
How the hell dose it need slave AND master cylinder I would say heís having you on ... most decent clutch kits come with slave cylinder any way ....
Only if they have internals slaves external slaves arnt usual part of the clutch kits
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Re: Bravo petrol 150tjet. Timing belt when clutch replaced??

On the t-jet the slave cylinder is the concentric type mounted around the gearbox input shaft (one piece with the thrust bearing)... so needs replacing 100% when doing the clutch.
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Quote Originally Posted by Matthen View Post
Find out what he's charging you for the parts, then price them up on ECP/Shop4parts (with discount codes). If it's considerably cheaper, offer to buy the parts and have him fit them.

However, I suspect labour will be the killer; to get to the clutch, they've got to split the gearbox from the block, which (i'm lead to believe) is not straightforward; parts have to come out to get access. In that case, you can either find a garage that charges a lower rate per hour, or do it yourself.



The way I justified my recent expenditure on my bravo was this: The car, other than the part at fault, is in good condition with a known history. The cost of repair (about £800 all in this month) is the same as about 4 months lease on something new and equally well equipped. So, if the repair lasts 4 months (which it hopefully will), i'm in the black.

Alternatively, I could have replaced it with something used, and, in the price brackets i'd be looking at, potentially equally broken (just with an unknown fault) or ripe to lose many times the repair cost in depreciation over the next year or so. Adding on the cost of changing the car (insurance costs, tax loss etc) and it didn't make sense.
Do you know any discount codes for shop4parts because my clutch too is slipping and leaking gear oil need to buy clutch disc and slave cylinder for my bravo?
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Re: Bravo petrol 150tjet. Timing belt when clutch replaced??

I believe there is one available if you donate to the forum. Don't quote me on that though.
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Re: Bravo petrol 150tjet. Timing belt when clutch replaced??

I found a code thatís gives 10% off at s4p!
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