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Re: How fast can your Bravo go on a quiet road

I think what he meant to say is that he did this:



in the nurburgring under 10 seconds.
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Variance in speed and Road Surface quality play a big piece of the puzzle. Look at the German Autobahn's. I cannot be arsed looking for stats but I've heard time and time again they're probably the safest highways in europe a lot of which are unrestricted speeds
More and more of the Autobahn is getting restrictions now though. Shame really. I'd love to enjoy a journey on there with something really powerful. Not a Bravo for sure. As much as I love them.
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That will be thanks to the EU quangos rather than Germany no doubt.
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More and more of the Autobahn is getting restrictions now though. Shame really. I'd love to enjoy a journey on there with something really powerful. Not a Bravo for sure. As much as I love them.
Should try a chipped 150 Sport Bravo. Mine with 185BHP is nothing to be ashamed of. Between 80 and 180 km/ph did win against an brand new S350 CDI (newest version).

You should see his face....
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Should try a chipped 150 Sport Bravo. Mine with 185BHP is nothing to be ashamed of. Between 80 and 180 km/ph did win against an brand new S350 CDI (newest version).

You should see his face....
Only 180km/h??

I do 230 easily with mine and I never dared to see how further it can go.
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Only 180km/h??

I do 230 easily with mine and I never dared to see how further it can go.
235 is my top. The needle is somewhere in the red and the power is then gone... Only downhill could go faster. With a 7th gear there would be more possible. But I like the acceleration more than topspeed. Untill 210km/ph is goes like stink!
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Should try a chipped 150 Sport Bravo. Mine with 185BHP is nothing to be ashamed of. Between 80 and 180 km/ph did win against an brand new S350 CDI (newest version).

You should see his face....
Oh don't worry I am not ashamed of a bravo and understand they are quick especially the 150 and 165 but if I'm going on the autobahn I'd want something dramatic, a Ferrari or Aston for example. Something in your face you know what I mean.
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Oh don't worry I am not ashamed of a bravo and understand they are quick especially the 150 and 165 but if I'm going on the autobahn I'd want something dramatic, a Ferrari or Aston for example. Something in your face you know what I mean.
on a straight line? it makes absolutely no difference what car you're in as long as you're not trying to do 350Km/h and then die.
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Speed doesn't kill, laws of physics do.[/IMG]
Forces/ momentum increase as speed increases.

Crash your car at 30 mph into a concrete wall... then hit it at 80 mph.

1.3 tonne going at 80 has a lot more force/ momentum behind it compared with 30. Hence the reasons for braking harder or for a longer period of time in order to get back to 0....

I just think it's not right to say "speed doesn't kill"

Most modern cars are capable of handling sub 40 MPH crashes with all occupants unharmed.

However, if your hitting 120 mph and you roll it, I'm not certain you wouldn't come out looking too healthy

By no means am I saying "go fast and you will die" just stating my opinion that the faster you go, when you do get it wrong, it is a lot harder to handle and could end up a lot worse.
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Even worse when you think that if you hit an oncoming car you have to add their speed into the equation, for arguments sake you're on a national speed limit country lane doing the speed limit (60) imagine hitting a car also sticking to the speed limit head on, coming the other way. You hit that person head on at 120MPH. Watch this ford focus hit a wall at 120MPH and I guarantee your jaw will drop as mine did.


What you need to think about is theoretically the above situation would be completely within the laws of the uk roads.

Point I'm making? The fall doesn't kill you, it's the sudden stop at the end. We have all seen speed warning infomercials on the telly. There is no need for this thread. I think majority of Bravo owners are mature family men/women.
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No one watches fifth gear anyway and to be fair .....the rear wheels were still usable...
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Even worse when you think that if you hit an oncoming car you have to add their speed into the equation, for arguments sake you're on a national speed limit country lane doing the speed limit (60) imagine hitting a car also sticking to the speed limit head on, coming the other way. You hit that person head on at 120MPH. Watch this ford focus hit a wall at 120MPH and I guarantee your jaw will drop as mine did.

http://youtu.be/6dI5ewOmHPQ

What you need to think about is theoretically the above situation would be completely within the laws of the uk roads.

Point I'm making? The fall doesn't kill you, it's the sudden stop at the end. We have all seen speed warning infomercials on the telly. There is no need for this thread. I think majority of Bravo owners are mature family men/women.
I assume you don't watch mythbusters? They disproved that. Hitting a car coming the other way at 60mph while traveling at 60mph is = to hitting it stationary as long as they're similar mass.
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I assume you don't watch mythbusters? They disproved that. Hitting a car coming the other way at 60mph while traveling at 60mph is = to hitting it stationary as long as they're similar mass.
its just a tv show, they didn't put people inside and check damage of internal organs
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I assume you don't watch mythbusters? They disproved that. Hitting a car coming the other way at 60mph while traveling at 60mph is = to hitting it stationary as long as they're similar mass.
I love Mythbusters, I must've missed this one. However it still makes a pretty good point even if not completely accurate, it's going to cause a lot of pain and damage (and death) and that's without "speeding" theoretically. Basically the original post is just telling everyone what we already know. Whenever we put out foot down illegally or legally there's a danger so you must do everything you can to cut the risk.
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I assume you don't watch mythbusters? They disproved that. Hitting a car coming the other way at 60mph while traveling at 60mph is = to hitting it stationary as long as they're similar mass.
Unless I am being pedantic, this is wrong.

It's not at all "stationary". If one car were stationary, and another shot into it at 60 mph, a lot of the force would be transferred from one into the other, shooting the stationary car backwards - yes? That transfer of force would reduce overall force placed on the travelling vehicle.

Unless of course you have the ability to totally bolt the car to the floor

I think it would be more realistic to compare it to hitting a concrete block at 60 - where ALL of the force is placed upon the moving car.

Rather than being "Stationary" the opposing vehicle has to have exactly the same amount of thrust and mass in order for that to work.

Who would come off worse if someone travelling the speed limit, say 40, hit head on with someone else speeding doing 70? That question is far more relevant as no-one is ever going to hit at the same speed, with the same car, at a dead square angle.
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