Hi All,

I did a search and didnt come across as much info. Sorry if I am doubling up on any thread. I aint that cluey with this stuff. So feel free to move the thread or direct me to the right thread.

However my question is:

I want more power in my Bravo tjet 1.4 (no idea what the 120 or 150 stands for )

So I read that the punto abarth turbo will fit the bravo 1.4 tjet as they are same engine??? If so, where can I source the part from? Is it one complete kit? Is it just bolt on? Remap... I can maybe get this done by a performance place in Australia somewhere... or is there something I need to watch out for? Some say go to a FIAT tuning place? There are none here in Sydney from what I know...

Any help, thanks in advance!

Sax

I would think all you need is the part number for the Abarth turbo and any Fiat dealer can order one for you, however if you have the Bravo 150T you probably already have the Abarth Turbo. I don't know for sure but the Bravo 150T has 150bhp and the Grande Abarth has 155bhp so unlikely to be any real difference. You therefore would want the Essesse Turbo. Combine that with things like a free flow decat exhaust system, FMIC, induction system and ECU remap and you're probably get some nice numbers.

Does anyone know what the internals are good for in the Bravo TJet?

thepottleflump said:

Does anyone know what the internals are good for in the Bravo TJet?

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I think thats where I need to start...

Also the esseesse Turbo might be my option and if it will fit my Tjet 1.4...Exhaust is no problem. Its more about ECU remapping etc...

are you not better going for a aftermarket turbo over a proper fiat turbo, then get the front mount intercooler uprated injectors, high flow/coldair airfilter de cat exhaust and if you going for high bhp increase you might get pistons etc then last of all do a ecu remap

Well the thig is I keep getting told, the original upgrades are better choice because it wont push the engine over its limits etc... I always hear that it can cause more problems...

I know for a fact aftermarket Turbo is a better choice for more power but how much can this engine handle? I am worried to take it to a tuner place and they upgrade it then i have more problems because it causes other things to fail...

I am only talking what I hear I'm sure there are heaps out there that have greater personal experience..?

There are not many people upgrading these cars in Aus yet. You may just have to take a stab at it and see how it goes. All previous turbo Fiat engines have been pretty well made, I doubt this one is any different.

I would fit an aftermarket turbo if you are not worried about changing the car from a standard look. Or get the stock turbo modified with bigger internals

I know a place in NZ at least that can reprogram the ecu so it is possible. You just need to find someone that can do it.

There is still very little about at the moment, there is some stuff on scorpian tuning, an italian site, and they were getting 265bhp, using parts by G-tech GMBH. I have been looking along these lines, and so far i was looking at doing the following:

GSR engineering induction kit,
Ragazon turbo back exhaust with sports CAT.
Forge FMIC (dsigned for punto but should be able to make it fit)
Novitec tuning box.

Should see around the 200bhp mark.

After that would require new turbos and internals, and imo proably better to upgrade car instead.

The turbo from GP abarth ss ( 180 hp ) is what a Croatian Fiat dealer has recommended and a remap..With a ragazzon complete system and intake you could get more then 200 hp

if you upgraded pistons camshaft gasflowed the head cold air intake turbo exhaust fmic injectors ecu remap and maybe a rebore your engine should be reliable if pistons and camshaft are good also maybe worth getting a lightened flywheel if possible this lot would cost you alot of cash but wud give you a good bhp increase also how about a supercharge for low end power will give you good power before turbo kicks in also how about anti lag system

No need to go to a Fiat Tuning place (if there is one in Australia which I don't think there is), ecu is ecu, it shouldn't be hard to find a place in sydney who can chip or reflash your ecu. There is a place in Silverwater, I think it was called SAS who specialise in ecu tuning, performance chips etc. But before that I'd contact Matt (hitman) @ www.hitman.hm for tuning and he can point you in the right direction.

Places like G.C.G gcg.com.au, precision turbochargers etc. can high flow your original turbo if it has some room for improvement. Also check your injectors and fuel pump and make sure they are up to the job.

All I can suggest to you is plan ahead and do everything in one go otherwise you'll either have to take it slow until you have proper ecu tuning or have to pay for ecu tuning few times.

There is one guy in my country trying to hit 200hp at the moment, so far all he has is full exhaust system (turbo back and decat). He's planning to do that power with the standard turbo I think.

Like GibBravo said for anything over 200hp something like a Golf GTI, Seat Cupra, Megane RS would be better and easier.

Would I gain some power (how much?) if I got a proper "turbo exhaust" from the headers would that be an option rather then changing turbo etc?

ausritmo said:

Would I gain some power (how much?) if I got a proper "turbo exhaust" from the headers would that be an option rather then changing turbo etc?

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think for reasonable increase way to go, full exhaust we sports cat or decat will give you around 10bhp, with induction kit another 5 so 165 before remap, with remap to about 190, and if you uprate intercooler around the 200bhp mark. after that you need a bigger turbo, then you would need adapted manifold, new injectors, fuel pump, custom ecu, to go bigger, and the costs involved would be astronomical.

Could wait and see if they put the new 1.8 turbo in an abarth model, but dont hold your breath. Would really make more sense to et a true 'hot' hatch after this. Golf gti ed30's are 240bhp standard and a remap and exhaust take them over 300. Focus st easily hit 280-290 with remap and exhaust as well.

I own a bravo 1.4 active (90bhp) model and I'm wondering what I'd need to do to put a turbo on it and weather I'd need to change the internals or not? 90 horses is too boring

Will be cheaper to sell that one and buy a Tjet sport (150bhp) or the normal Tjet which is 120bhp

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T-Jet 150 already has the Abarth Grande Punto turbo

What you are looking for is the Abarth Grande Punto essesse kit turbo - Garrett GT 1446 turbocharger

although reading the essesse kit spec below you would ideally need to upgrade a lot more to achieve a reliable 180 bhp...

The 'esseesse' kit adds numerous components including a new Garrett GT 1446 turbocharger which increases boost pressure from 1.3 to 1.5 bar, new water and oil pipes to the turbo, new exhaust manifold, heat shield, complete injector rail, MAP sensor, boost sensor, modified catalytic converter, larger diameter exhaust, new intercooler pipework, adapted radiator pipe, new water pump, wastegate valve, BMC air filter, and new engine ECU. Visually the 'esseesse' kit adds 'esseesse' logos on the tailgate, wing mirror covers and an engine cover.

Fitted with the full 'esseesse' kit, the Abarth Grande Punto produces 180 bhp at 5750 rpm and 272 Nm (200 lb ft) at 2750 rpm. Top speed is increased to 133 mph, while accelerating from 0-62 mph now takes just 7.7 seconds.

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Vl36 would get you about 180bhp. Would need exhausts, camshafts & ecu to get more.